10/20: blind defense round 3, part 3 - A6o

Surfbullet · #1 09-11-2005, 12:11 PM

Villain is 61/32/1.4 over 85 hands.

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP raises, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, MP calls.

Flop: (7 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets, Hero raises...

Surf

ISF · #2 09-11-2005, 01:04 PM

If your going to make a move here I would just cr the flop and bet the turn. This isnt a great flop so I would just check fold it.

MAxx · #3 09-11-2005, 01:09 PM

I'd much rather lead the flop than take your line.

spydog · #4 09-11-2005, 02:21 PM

Preflop raise is borderline, but probably correct against someone this aggressive.

Lead the flop. If he raises then call down if the board stays fairly tame. Don't try and make a loose player fold postflop with a tricky move. With a mediocre hand that you want to show down against a player like this, just play passively if he comes at you on the flop. I'd rather you check-call then entire way than try that crazy turn CR against this type of player.

Surfbullet · #5 09-11-2005, 03:47 PM

Thanks for the input guys. I have been experimenting with different lines, but I don't really like this one. I thought the flop check would be very suspicious, some players give up easier when I use it...but I agree that betting out is better (as a standard) and getting fancy here does very little for me.

Surf

cartman · #6 09-18-2005, 07:44 AM

I am assuming by villain's preflop stats that folding too much postflop isn't one of his problems. That said, I play a pure value game against this guy because I don't think he will ever fold a better hand than yours and I would hate to fold Ace high against him on a board this small in a pot this big.

Do you guys think moves are ever correct heads up against a maniac?

Thanks,
Cartman

Surfbullet · #7 09-19-2005, 11:39 AM

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Do you guys think moves are ever correct heads up against a maniac?

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Almost never IMO. As you said, folding too much isn't their mistake. Value, value, value.

Surf

MarkD · #8 09-19-2005, 01:08 PM

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Villain is 61/32/1.4 over 85 hands.

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP raises, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, MP calls.

Flop: (7 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets, Hero raises...

Surf

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I truly believe that when I stop making plays like this my win rate will increase and my SD will decrease and my graph will be prettier. I haven't reached that state of tiltlessness yet.

Lmn55d · #9 09-19-2005, 01:52 PM

This is probably the last player you want to make this move against. If he's aggro I have no problem with checking the flop, but it's with the intention of check/calling to showdown.

Surfbullet · #10 09-19-2005, 02:22 PM

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I truly believe that when I stop making plays like this my win rate will increase and my SD will decrease and my graph will be prettier. I haven't reached that state of tiltlessness yet.

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I agree 100%. This was a tilt/frustration move, and is the biggest hole in my game at this point.

Surf