PP 15/30 I dont know what I'm doing

kurosh · #1 02-17-2005, 02:26 AM

Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. MP3 posts a blind of $15.
2 folds, UTG+2 calls, 1 fold, MP2 calls, MP3 (poster) checks, Hero raises, 3 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 folds.

Flop: (8.66 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG+2 checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets, UTG+2 folds, MP2 calls.

Turn: (5.33 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets, MP2 raises, Hero calls.

River: (9.33 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP2 bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 11.33 BB

Villain is LAG.

Nate tha' Great · #2 02-17-2005, 02:31 AM

Honestly if you're having trouble with this sort of hand then I think you may be playing over your head. Doing anything other than call down against a LAG with this board and action will be very costly in the longer run.

kurosh · #3 02-17-2005, 02:34 AM

Sigh, I thought it was standard but after 5 or 6 of these in a row where villain (with 30-40 VP$IP and 2+ aggression) shows me a better hand, I start to question myself.

Nate tha' Great · #4 02-17-2005, 02:37 AM

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Sigh, I thought it was standard but after 5 or 6 of these in a row where villain (with 30-40 VP$IP and 2+ aggression) shows me a better hand, I start to question myself.

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Well, I think he's going to have you beat like 75% of the time. You have to call down getting those odds but it's also going to produce some runs where he shows you the goods seven or eight times in a row ... that's poker.

SinCityGuy · #5 02-17-2005, 04:06 AM

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Turn: (5.33 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets, MP2 raises

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At this point, there are 8.33 BB's in the pot. You will have to put in a total of two bets to call the raise and his river bet. 9.33/2 = 4.665/1.

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Villain is LAG.

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The most important piece of information in your thread. Expect to win this pot more than 18% of the time.

There is also an alternative line that you can take against aggressive opponents on this type of a board. When he checks the turn, check behind him. The risk of giving a free card is not too high. When you're behind, you save a total of 2 bets by not getting checkraised. When you're ahead, you induce a river bluff by demonstrating weakness on the turn, which gains you a bet on a hand that he might have folded on the turn.

bicyclekick · #6 02-17-2005, 05:27 AM

This is definately a no brainer hand. 3 betting the turn is reckless and folding is horrible, so do exactly what you did and call him down.

fearme · #7 02-17-2005, 05:31 AM

u don't know what u doing, looks good