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Old 06-20-2005, 09:21 PM
ihardlyknowher ihardlyknowher is offline
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Everything looks good up until the river. For a bet to be correct, you need to be sure that 2 things are true:
1. villain could have TT;
2. if villain has AK, he will call.

In general, I don't think that is the case in this hand. Check behind.

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I strongly disagree.

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Why?
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Old 06-20-2005, 09:21 PM
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Okay thats a lot clearer. I don't like 3-betting though since getting capped sucks.
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Old 06-20-2005, 09:22 PM
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you are missing a lot of value betting opportunities. unless youre kidding. the river is a no brainer bet. youre analisis about TT AK is worthless he is playing against a very loose player who could have anything.
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Old 06-20-2005, 09:23 PM
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Your river bet is fine. You have no reason to believe that Villian has a better hand than yours and he seems perfectly happy to call you down. Not betting here would be crazy.
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Old 06-20-2005, 09:23 PM
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Everything looks good up until the river. For a bet to be correct, you need to be sure that 2 things are true:
1. villain could have TT;
2. if villain has AK, he will call.

In general, I don't think that is the case in this hand. Check behind.

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I strongly disagree.

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Why?

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Villain has done nothing to show me that he has me beat in this hand. After his initial flop bet, he has been nothing but passive. The board pairing doens't do much to change my desire to value bet the hell out of this guy.

I'm not sure about this guy's capping standards, but I think that any overpair to the board calls. AJ calls. Random overcards call. I want to value bet this guy.
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Old 06-20-2005, 09:24 PM
Jake (The Snake) Jake (The Snake) is offline
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I don't get it. Why can't villain have QQ, A7, 99, 88 too among other hands.
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Old 06-20-2005, 09:25 PM
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he is playing against a very loose player who could have anything.

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Um ... villain capped preflop. Loose doesn't equal maniac.
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Old 06-20-2005, 09:25 PM
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to me if this is a loose player i call the raise and expect to win a lot of times here. this looks like someone trying to find a bad excuse to bluff. the play looks pretty standard to me
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Old 06-20-2005, 09:26 PM
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I don't get it. Why can't villain have QQ, A7, 99, 88 too among other hands.

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QQ is possible. But he capped preflop so the other holdings are not, unless villain is a complete maniac. But Hero would know this after 15 minutes at the table.
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Old 06-20-2005, 09:27 PM
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you shouldn't think twice about calling this river raise, not even for a second. (and you can consider reraising.)

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I don't see what's wrong with calling this river raise. Could be bluffing, could have "improved" to two pair.

A re-raise is pretty terrible because if he caps, you have to fold, and he folds a bluff. ugh.
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