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11-14-2005, 04:09 AM
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Re: Are you looking for 5/10 Limit Holdem in Vegas?
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Again, let me reiterate that the 5/10 game will die a horrible death [/ QUOTE ] I know that this is the conventional wisdom, and conventional wisdom is usually right. I've also read about the chip structure study done in LA, which backs up what all the 5/10 naysayers are claiming. Nevertheless, if 1/2 chip structures are so horrible, how come Foxwoods has fantastic 5/10 kill games. The number of games are plentiful, and the action is virtually identical to Foxwoods' 4/8 games which uses $2 chips. If one were to buy into the chip structure theory, you'd probably assume that 4/8 has a lot more action, but that's just not the case. While I don't discount the impact of chip structures entirely, I suspect it is a far less important factor than most feel, as evidenced by the games at Foxwoods. Additionally, I believe internet poker has created a demand for 5/10. Many people are used to playing 5/10 on their computers, but have never played in (or even seen) a 4/8, 6/12, or 8/16 game being spread online. These players specifically want to play 5/10 because that is the limit they are comfortable playing online. Back when chip structure theory was created, there was no such demand. Now that there is, the Aladdin should be able to get a few more asses in the seats, especially since they have no competition at that limit. 
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11-14-2005, 09:30 AM
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Re: Are you looking for 5/10 Limit Holdem in Vegas?
The full kill is very attractive to gamblers so that is the most likely explanation why those games have good action. A straight 5-10 game is completely different than a kill game.
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#3
11-14-2005, 10:03 AM
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Re: Are you looking for 5/10 Limit Holdem in Vegas?
Hahahahaha, using Foxwoods as the evidence that $5/10 and bad chip structures don't matter is ridiculous.
Who the hell uses $2 chips for a $4/8 game? Foxwoods is by far the worst run poker room in the history of the world and these are just examples of it. Everything about that room is nitty as hell and made to keep costs down to a minimum. And the action definitely suffers there. I have no doubt that had they actually had $10 chips made, we would have been using them while playing $20/40.
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11-14-2005, 05:36 PM
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Re: Are you looking for 5/10 Limit Holdem in Vegas?
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Foxwoods is by far the worst run poker room in the history of the world and these are just examples of it. [/ QUOTE ] Granted, Foxwoods is not a well run poker room by any means, but that does not mean you should entirely discount everything that takes place there just because the management is poor. [ QUOTE ] Hahahahaha, using Foxwoods as the evidence that $5/10 and bad chip structures don't matter is ridiculous. Who the hell uses $2 chips for a $4/8 game? [/ QUOTE ] The fact that most casinos prefer not to use $2 chips for 4/8 isn't what's important. What's important is that the 2 chip/4 chip structure is supposed to create more action than 1chip/2chip, but at Foxwoods it doesn't. How the room is run is superfluous to the argument. What's relevant is that there's no difference in quality of games between the "good" structure at 4/8 and the "bad" structure at 5/10. Or, for that matter, no difference between 5/10 and 10/20 either. [ QUOTE ] Everything about that room is nitty as hell and made to keep costs down to a minimum. And the action definitely suffers there. [/ QUOTE ] This is just plain wrong. The action at Foxwoods is tremendous. There's not a single regular game in Vegas that approaches the softness of the games at Foxwoods. This is true at all hold 'em and O/8 limits, as well as the stud games I briefly sat in. The "poorly structured" 5/10 game at Foxwoods blows the doors of anything comparable in Vegas.
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