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Old 09-01-2005, 10:04 AM
bennies bennies is offline
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Default He called me with Jack high!

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To do well in Sit n Go's we need to play well when the blinds go up and know how to push. How do we know when to push?

" <font color="green">By the ability to put the opponent on a calling range</font> " - quote, Mr. Raptor517.

So help me out with the standard calling ranges for the average Party 55 player. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 09-01-2005, 10:09 AM
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Default Scenario 1

If this thread gets going, I figured people could add more scenarios. I'll start out,

Scenario 1:
4 people, equal stacks (2500 each), blinds 200/400.
Hero is CO. What are the calling ranges of Button, SB and BB?

My guess:
Button: 88+, AJ+
SB: 77+, AT+
BB: 44+, A6s+, A8o+, KQ.

What do you think?
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Old 09-01-2005, 10:12 AM
J-Lo J-Lo is offline
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Default Re: He called me with Jack high!

DEPENDS!!!!!

When it is 4 handed and there is a short stack (3x BB or less), you can push with any 2 if u are chipleader-- because people don't want 4th. However, people DO get fed up and start calling you w/ A6o or QT with the 2nd largest stack in this scenario (BIG MISTAKE)-- and this should make your pushing range tigher (not by much).

If you are raping someone's BB when it is 6 handed, they WILL get fed up and call you w/ A9o or even KQ-- it ALL depends on the player and situation... If you could figure out their calling range, then you could 16 table the $55's and easily make $100/hr-- even raptor hasn't gotten up to 16 tables @ the $55's.
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Old 09-01-2005, 11:17 AM
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Default Scenario 2

another example...

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) converter

SB (t1720)
BB (t2330)
UTG (t4340)
Hero (t1610)

Preflop: Hero is Button with X[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Y[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>


Let's say Hero has an average image (some stealing but not abundantly), what calling ranges do we put SB and BB (average Party 55 players) on?

My guess:
SB: 88+, AT+
BB: 88+, AT+
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Old 09-01-2005, 11:22 AM
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Default Re: Scenario 1

this is totally buy in dependent more specifics will be necessary before any meaningful responses can be made

SAM
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Old 09-01-2005, 11:24 AM
kevstreet kevstreet is offline
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Default Re: Scenario 2

$22 table (last night)
4 left, basically all equal stacks, I had been short but caught up by pushing everything without a call. I knew one guy was getting annoyed and wanted to spite call me. Sure enough I'm UTG w/ AQ and he called w/ 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] He called w/ 4 high! FWIW, he won the hand and knocked me out.
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Old 09-01-2005, 11:38 AM
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Default Re: Scenario 1

Party 55s (it says in op)
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Old 09-01-2005, 01:22 PM
Ixnert Ixnert is offline
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Default Re: Scenario 1

Not only buy-in dependent, but read dependent. We can go with the "standard 55er" read for the three opponents, but how do they see us? Have we been pushing a lot? Fairly quiet? Even with relatively unobservant opponents, our previous behavior has a huge effect specifically on push calling ranges.

If we assume that we've been following the "standard 2+2" pushbot strategy so far, those calling ranges seem pretty reasonable, though maybe slightly broad for all three (I have a hard time seeing most BBs calling here with 44, for example).
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Old 09-01-2005, 01:30 PM
schwza schwza is offline
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Default Re: Scenario 1

[ QUOTE ]
If this thread gets going, I figured people could add more scenarios. I'll start out,

Scenario 1:
4 people, equal stacks (2500 each), blinds 200/400.
Hero is CO. What are the calling ranges of Button, SB and BB?

My guess:
Button: 88+, AJ+
SB: 77+, AT+
BB: 44+, A6s+, A8o+, KQ.

What do you think?

[/ QUOTE ]

button: AQ, 99
SB: AJ, 88
button: AT, 77

i'd be shocked to see BB call with 44.
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