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Old 10-22-2005, 07:39 PM
splashpot splashpot is offline
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Default Re: $27 call down with QQ?

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Any read on villain?

Based on how the hand was played, he probably has KK.

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Assume no. Thats one of the things I need to work on. Paying closer attention.
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Old 10-22-2005, 07:41 PM
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Default Re: $27 call down with QQ?

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i push unless i really think villian will LIMP/raise w/ AA or KK
If villain has JJ, just a bad beat. I like getting more $ in preflop, and if not... getting as much $ in postflop as possible.

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This is obviously what I'm concerned about.
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Old 10-22-2005, 07:47 PM
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Default Re: $27 call down with QQ?

tough spot without a read

I really think he has a mediocre hand, and thinks BB is trying to push him off it. I really don't put villian on AA or KK. Has villian played a hand yet? If he's slowplayin AA or KK, wouldn't he at least min raise (or 2.5 BB)...
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Old 10-22-2005, 07:50 PM
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Default Re: $27 call down with QQ?

I didn't read preflop action right. Didn't realize he reraised you preflop there. Meh.

Now, I think checking the flop is ok, but I don't like the call. I think raising and folding to the 3-bet is a good line here for clarity. Without a read, depending on the level, I think that's my line.

Against a donk, I bet and happily shove my chips in the middle if raised.
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Old 10-22-2005, 07:58 PM
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Default Re: $27 call down with QQ?

I think I'm check-pushing this flop. I think you get called here by worse hands enough.
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Old 10-22-2005, 08:00 PM
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Default Re: $27 call down with QQ?

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I didn't read preflop action right. Didn't realize he reraised you preflop there. Meh.

Now, I think checking the flop is ok, but I don't like the call. I think raising and folding to the 3-bet is a good line here for clarity. Without a read, depending on the level, I think that's my line.

Against a donk, I bet and happily shove my chips in the middle if raised.

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The problem with this line is that I commit more than half of my remaining chips if I raise his flop bet. Folding after that can't be right.
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Old 10-22-2005, 08:16 PM
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Default Re: $27 call down with QQ?

Lead the flop, fold to a reraise.

Fold if he bets the turn.

Call his 150 if you get to the river.
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Old 10-22-2005, 08:18 PM
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Lead the flop, fold to a reraise.

Fold if he bets the turn.

Call his 150 if you get to the river.

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Old 10-22-2005, 09:17 PM
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Default Re: $27 call down with QQ?

In a 27 on stars you can't fold qq on that flop there are so many hands he could have i.e j9+ 99 1010 even something stupid like a9 or k9. You need to either lead the flop or when he leads you have to checkraise chances are you have the best hand on the flop and try to get the most money in on the flop.
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