A9o question

Online247 · #1 09-18-2005, 04:58 PM

Party Poker 2.00/4.00 Hold'em (10 handed) link

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, 2 folds, MP3 calls, Hero calls, 1 folds, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6.00 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 bets, UTG+2 folds, MP3 calls, Hero calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP3 bets, Hero???

Well I called the flop with TP and a backdoor flush draw. Now on the turn the original bettor slowed down and checked while MP3 decides to fire out a bullet.

I don't know what to do because UTG+1 has limped with QQ's before and slowplayed them to river against my Jacks where he suddenly decided to c/r on a raggedy board. So in other words his postflop is funky and he's a sandbagger and aggresive.

I have no reads on MP3.

With that what would be the best line here?

NateDog · #2 09-18-2005, 05:08 PM

Raise the flop. Bet the turn, after it's checked to you.

Online247 · #3 09-18-2005, 05:12 PM

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Raise the flop. Bet the turn, after it's checked to you.

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And pump up the pot (equity) for those with OESD and flush draws?

#4 09-18-2005, 05:15 PM

I fold this preflop. I'm not sure about the flop. As played I think I raise the turn, protecting my hand and taking a free showdown, though I'd like to here what everyone thinks.

scotty34 · #5 09-18-2005, 05:16 PM

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Raise the flop. Bet the turn, after it's checked to you.

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And pump up the pot (equity) for those with OESD and flush draws?

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Kind of an odd concept here, but do you realize that more than one person can "make money" in a single hand?

Edit - not to say I necessarily agree with raising this flop

#6 09-18-2005, 05:21 PM

I raise this flop and bet the turn. The river I will probably check down.

bozlax · #7 09-18-2005, 05:22 PM

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I fold this preflop. I'm not sure about the flop. As played I think I raise the turn, protecting my hand and taking a free showdown, though I'd like to here what everyone thinks.

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I agree. A flop raise doesn't protect against a flush draw or OESD. If 3-bet on the turn call and check/fold the river UI.

bozlax · #8 09-18-2005, 05:22 PM

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I raise this flop and bet the turn. The river I will probably check down.

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Ok...why?

#9 09-18-2005, 05:28 PM

Free card play on the flop. I bet the turn to hopefully get to check the river. I will fold the turn to a reraise if I dont have a flush draw.

NateDog · #10 09-18-2005, 05:50 PM

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Raise the flop. Bet the turn, after it's checked to you.

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And pump up the pot (equity) for those with OESD and flush draws?

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These hands are going to have odds to draw no matter what you do. Even a flop raise is offering SB 5:1. (Though it faces him with 2 cold, and he may fold. Same goes for BB) The problem with getting involved in a multiway pot with a trash hand like A9o is exactly what you've encountered here. You don't know where you stand, and it may be expensive to get to showdown.

The way you played it, you can raise MP3's turn bet, and fold out SB/BB. Check behind on the river UI.