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09-27-2005, 07:20 AM
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One God
The argument made by Christians leads to the concept of a supreme being which created the universe, lives in a "world" beyond our physical reality, and sent his "son" to redeem us from our sins.
Say I accept the concept, but maybe not all the OT details. How do you get to the notion that there is one God who is eternal and infinite? Why can't "God" (the creator of our universe) be from a race of other supreme beings? Why do these beings have to be "eternal and infinite"? If there is one God, how did he have a son? The concept of creation and a heaven full of these "Gods" is not inconsistent with the belief that God is but one of a race of supreme beings. The arguments for God used by Christians are not inconsistent with the concept. It actually may seem more logical to some. Ah, but there's a catch! If God is but one of a race of these beings, then he is no longer "THE" God, and our devotion to him in particular may not seem so necessary. Plus, we as a species may seem less significant if there is a whole race of Gods, rather than us as the only "soulmates" of the divine creator. Also, the concept then starts to sound more like Greek mythology when one travels down this path, and you wouldn't want your belief systems to sound like their silly belief systems. 
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09-27-2005, 07:32 AM
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Re: One God
The only argument against you is that the bible says otherwise.
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09-27-2005, 07:37 AM
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Re: One God
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The argument made by Christians leads to the concept of a supreme being which created the universe, lives in a "world" beyond our physical reality, and sent his "son" to redeem us from our sins. Say I accept the concept, but maybe not all the OT details. How do you get to the notion that there is one God who is eternal and infinite? Why can't "God" (the creator of our universe) be from a race of other supreme beings? Why do these beings have to be "eternal and infinite"? If there is one God, how did he have a son? The concept of creation and a heaven full of these "Gods" is not inconsistent with the belief that God is but one of a race of supreme beings. The arguments for God used by Christians are not inconsistent with the concept. It actually may seem more logical to some. Ah, but there's a catch! If God is but one of a race of these beings, then he is no longer "THE" God, and our devotion to him in particular may not seem so necessary. Plus, we as a species may seem less significant if there is a whole race of Gods, rather than us as the only "soulmates" of the divine creator. Also, the concept then starts to sound more like Greek mythology when one travels down this path, and you wouldn't want your belief systems to sound like their silly belief systems. [/ QUOTE ] What God says about himself has a profound impact on what we Christians believe about God. If God says there is no other God besides him and he is truthful, then it is settled. God demonstrates himself as truthful repeatedly. It takes a lot of the speculation out of the equation when the God of the universe takes it upon himself to reveal himself to his creation as he has done.
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#4
09-27-2005, 07:44 AM
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Re: One God
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The only argument against you is that the bible says otherwise. [/ QUOTE ] I concede that.
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#5
09-27-2005, 07:46 AM
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Re: One God
"What God says about himself has a profound impact on what we Christians believe about God. If God says there is no other God besides him and he is truthful, then it is settled. God demonstrates himself as truthful repeatedly. It takes a lot of the speculation out of the equation when the God of the universe takes it upon himself to reveal himself to his creation as he has done."
That's a longer way of saying what I said. But surely you are not suggesting that since the Bible says that there is only one god, that in any way proves there is. If the actual creater is one of a race of supreme beings, or if there is no god at all, that means the words of the bible and the God it postulates are false.
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#6
09-27-2005, 07:56 AM
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Re: One God
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If the actual creater is one of a race of supreme beings [/ QUOTE ] It this be true then God is a liar. [ QUOTE ] , or if there is no god at all, that means the words of the bible and the God it postulates are false. [/ QUOTE ] True, if there is no god, then any book that says otherwise is false.
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#7
09-27-2005, 08:40 AM
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Re: One God
"If the actual creater is one of a race of supreme beings"
"It this be true then God is a liar." Only if that creator was the one who authored the bible. Otherwise it is only the bible that is a liar. The real creator may have never contacted us.
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#8
10-01-2005, 02:36 PM
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Re: One God
Everything I have seen in my short life tells me there is no "god" at all. The foremost reason for why I feel this is because the writings were made over 2000 years ago in a time when the understanding of the world and universe were small.
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#10
10-01-2005, 09:01 PM
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Re: One God
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The only argument against you is that the bible says otherwise. [/ QUOTE ] Theres some ambiguity to this though, as Elohim is usually considered to be plural, and passages such as in Genesis: And the Lord God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever."
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