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Old 12-19-2005, 08:40 PM
Nepa Nepa is offline
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This morning, I listened to fox and friends like I always do and they kept repeating that the dems knew about it

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It really doesn't matter if they knew about it. The Senate doesn't give legal advise to the President.

Here is the main question that I have.

Did G.W. spy on John Kerry and his staff during the election?
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Old 12-19-2005, 09:17 PM
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Default Re: The disgraceful right-wing distortion on the domestic spying issue

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Here is the main question that I have.

Did G.W. spy on John Kerry and his staff during the election?

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If he did he must have been overjoyed at the fact that Kerry's campaign was so poorly run and incompetent in crafting a winning message. But then again, that was obvious to all so there was no need to spy. There's your answer.
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Old 12-19-2005, 09:26 PM
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Here is the main question that I have.

Did G.W. spy on John Kerry and his staff during the election?

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If he did he must have been overjoyed at the fact that Kerry's campaign was so poorly run and incompetent in crafting a winning message. But then again, that was obvious to all so there was no need to spy. There's your answer.

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I didn't ask if there was a need! I'm asking if he did!
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Old 12-19-2005, 09:27 PM
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Sorry, it's classified.
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Old 12-19-2005, 09:30 PM
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Sorry, it's classified.

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I don't care if it does stay classified. Do you have a problem if the Senate looks into this issue?
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Old 12-19-2005, 11:34 PM
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I have no problem if they do so in closed session so as not to expose our intelligence gathering capabilities. But I do have a problem if they seek to prevent what the president has authorized since it would hamper our ability to track those foreigners in American who seek to commit or aid terroristic acts, which has of course been shown to happen.
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Old 12-19-2005, 11:53 PM
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I have no problem if they do so in closed session so as not to expose our intelligence gathering capabilities. But I do have a problem if they seek to prevent what the president has authorized since it would hamper our ability to track those foreigners in American who seek to commit or aid terroristic acts, which has of course been shown to happen.

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I don't have a problem with the wire tapping.

There is a system in place where a wire tap can be placed and within 72 hours they would have to get this approved by a secret court. These aren't exact numbers but I'v heard there have been something like 12000 wire taps since 1980 and the court has turned down like 9.

Here is where my problem is. Why did the president order wiretaps then never take it in front of the secret court? Is there something to hide?

Would the court have disallow these wire taps? Were they spying on foes of the Bush admin? ect. ect.

Did Bush go to far this time?
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Old 12-20-2005, 12:22 AM
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Default Re: The disgraceful right-wing distortion on the domestic spying issue

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Did G.W. spy on John Kerry and his staff during the election?

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Now that is an interesting question.


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