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Old 10-02-2005, 09:27 PM
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Default 2 pair hit flop... fast play fails....

Here's the situation:

8-handed, $20 buyin, NL, .25/50 blinds

I am dealt K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] in mid-position. Two callers, small blind raises to 1.00, big blind folds.

(3 people in now)

Flop comes K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Action is first to me. Pot is around $4 or so. The first call is an ultra LAG, so I bet $6 to protect my 2-pair from draws.

LAG calls very quickly, all others fold.

Turn is something like 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Read on opponent here is that he has a very strong hand.
I check to the villain, who bets $3.

He called me quickly on an overbet to the pot. At this point i'm thinking trip 8's, flush, or possibly an overpair at best (he usually doesn't PF raise big pockets)

I call the $3, hoping to catch a boat here.
Flop comes with no help (forget what..some worthless card).

I check, villain bets $5.

I think for a long time, and fold my 2 pair.

Thoughts?

Results in white below:

<font color="white">
Villain shows 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] for the flush.
Yes, he called a $6 bet into a $4 pot for the draw only.
</font>

Questions:

Assuming I was beat at the turn, was it worth calling the $3 bet here in hopes of a boat? Pot was roughly $20, so I was getting 1:7 odds or so. I realize with 4 outs that I was getting nowhere near those odds, but figured I would be able to get him all in (only a small to moderate stack at that point..maybe another $10).

Thoughts?
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Old 10-02-2005, 09:38 PM
wdeadwyler wdeadwyler is offline
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Default Re: 2 pair hit flop... fast play fails....

If youre gonna call the turn you should call the river, if youre gonna fold the river you should fold the turn. Next time make a bet on the turn, if he sticks around re-evaulate on ther river. (as in check and see what happens)
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Old 10-02-2005, 09:40 PM
Neil Stevens Neil Stevens is offline
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Default Re: 2 pair hit flop... fast play fails....

Just a thought: putting the result in white doesn't help when you put in the suit images. All we need to see are the spades to know he had a flush, heh.
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Old 10-02-2005, 10:09 PM
j0wlev j0wlev is offline
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Default Re: 2 pair hit flop... fast play fails....

You called a 4xBB raise pre-flop with K2s...
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Old 10-02-2005, 10:15 PM
PoBoy321 PoBoy321 is offline
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Default Re: 2 pair hit flop... fast play fails....

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You called a 4xBB raise pre-flop with K2s...

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It was only a minraise from the SB. Still, his play of K2s is questionable at best.
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Old 10-03-2005, 12:23 AM
mason55 mason55 is offline
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Default Re: 2 pair hit flop... fast play fails....

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You called a 4xBB raise pre-flop with K2s...

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It was only a minraise from the SB. Still, his play of K2s is questionable at best.

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But they were sooooooooooooooted!
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Old 10-03-2005, 08:24 AM
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Default Re: 2 pair hit flop... fast play fails....

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You called a 4xBB raise pre-flop with K2s...

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It was only a minraise from the SB. Still, his play of K2s is questionable at best.

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No, the blinds were .25/50. I called 1.00 total, so it was only 2x the big blind. For as loose as these players are, and with 4 people wanting to play, it was an easy call.
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