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Old 11-04-2005, 03:47 AM
xorbie xorbie is offline
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Default NL1000: Turn/river

As is often the case, I see a few fish playing the 5/10 at skins and decide to hop in. Villain is 35/15 over 50 hands. Normally makes it $30 PF. The only hand I've seen him showdown, he flopped a straight in the BB, minbet the flop then min-3bet when he was raised. So basically a bit of a donk.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

UTG ($1483.50)
MP ($500)
Hero ($1050)
SB ($990)
BB ($1647.06)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. MP posts a blind of $10. SB posts a blind of $5.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $40</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $40, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($105) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($105) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $70</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $200</font>, Hero calls $130.

River: ($505) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: $505

Bet the flop here? Fold turn? Bet river? By that point I figure villain is obviously either bluffing or slowplaying the [censored] out of something.
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Old 11-04-2005, 03:49 AM
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Default Re: NL1000: Turn/river

well, youre pretty much always winning on the river. The question is will he call a bet with KK or any other hands you beat.
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Old 11-04-2005, 03:50 AM
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Default Re: NL1000: Turn/river

I like your line.

I almost always check behind when my kicker sucks like that.

Hard to fold the turn with the pot odds he gave you.... gotta know his mini raise = mega strength. Flush draw just came in, so semi-bluff is definately possible.

On the river, I don't see a value bet here, unless villian will call you with absolute crap.
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Old 11-04-2005, 03:54 AM
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Default Re: NL1000: Turn/river

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well, youre pretty much always winning on the river.

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lol

p.s.: Your line looks good.
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Old 11-04-2005, 03:55 AM
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Default Re: NL1000: Turn/river

I would bet river, since his check is pretty much telling you he doesn't have an ace, I doubt his check means hes worried about his kicker. I would make small river bet to try and induce call from possibly KK or a Q.
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Old 11-04-2005, 09:46 AM
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Default Re: NL1000: Turn/river

from what you describe he doesn't sound like anyone who check raises the river. looks like he just wants it cheap. i might think a while then bet half pot.
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Old 11-04-2005, 10:01 AM
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Default Re: NL1000: Turn/river

I think leading the flop and checking the turn is better play than the other way around. Cause checking the flop after preflop raise on AAQ is too suscpicious and betting and checking mix nicely with hands which you cont bet with and now giving up.

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Old 11-04-2005, 10:09 AM
KaneKungFu123 KaneKungFu123 is offline
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Default Re: NL1000: Turn/river

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As is often the case, I see a few fish playing the 5/10 at skins and decide to hop in. Villain is 35/15 over 50 hands. Normally makes it $30 PF. The only hand I've seen him showdown, he flopped a straight in the BB, minbet the flop then min-3bet when he was raised. So basically a bit of a donk.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

UTG ($1483.50)
MP ($500)
Hero ($1050)
SB ($990)
BB ($1647.06)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. MP posts a blind of $10. SB posts a blind of $5.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $40</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $40, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($105) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($105) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $70</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $200</font>, Hero calls $130.

River: ($505) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: $505

Bet the flop here? Fold turn? Bet river? By that point I figure villain is obviously either bluffing or slowplaying the [censored] out of something.

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dont give him a free card on river.
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Old 11-04-2005, 11:28 AM
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Default Re: NL1000: Turn/river

I can find a value bet on that river...

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Old 11-04-2005, 12:24 PM
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Default Re: NL1000: Turn/river

Fold face up.
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