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Old 10-24-2005, 07:55 PM
tjh tjh is offline
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Default Are SNG players good poker players ??

I play SNG's mostly the 20's at X-party skins and turbo's at UB.

I have a decent ROI and I make about as much per hour as a skilled employee would at a regular job.

Here is the deal.

I get bored with SNG's and try NL, NL 6max, MTT, Limit, Limit 6 max. At these other games I seem to NOT be winning.

Are SNG's easy? Are they the easiest form of online poker to beat ?

Perhaps variance is playing tricks with my perception so I was curious about what you guys thought.

Raptor, Citanul, Gigabet, Megabet, bluefeet, JohhnyBeef, all of you with tons of experience what do you think.

Maybe I just need to devote some time to figuring out the ways to beat those other games.

Any input ??

Do you guys play SNG's because the other stuff is too hard, too boring, has too much variance, or what ? Why do we play SNG's? I for one seem to come back to them when I bleed my bankroll to a pitiful stack at the other forms of poker. Then I build a little stack at the SNG until I get bored again.

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Old 10-24-2005, 08:04 PM
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Default Re: Are SNG players good poker players ??

Other games require Post Flop play. That makes them hard and SNGS easier IMO.
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Old 10-24-2005, 08:05 PM
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Default Re: Are SNG players good poker players ??

Yes, SNG players are good poker players. There is a significant difference in cash vs. tournament play, of course, and that is tournament strategy/theory. I believe tournaments are the most beatable because of this extra layer that can be exploited.

You're probably losing because you haven't adjusted your strategy. I play tournaments because they are exciting. There is a winner. My realization that they're more beatable came afterward.
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Old 10-24-2005, 08:08 PM
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Default Re: Are SNG players good poker players ??

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Maybe I just need to devote some time to figuring out the ways to beat those other games.

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Maybe? Why aren't you doing this already?
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Old 10-24-2005, 08:23 PM
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Default Re: Are SNG players good poker players ??

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Maybe I just need to devote some time to figuring out the ways to beat those other games.

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Maybe? Why aren't you doing this already?

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Duh !!! good point.

Because I am not sure how much time it will take. So many variables in Ring games. Harder to get to the good information. Those other forums are a real mess !

I probably should challenge myself so that I focus. Pick something like, 6max no limit and play a few thousand hands and take serious notes and do some serious analysis.

Thanks though !!

I guess it took time to figure out the SNG's, the challenge is half of the fun.

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Old 10-24-2005, 08:27 PM
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Default Re: Are SNG players good poker players ??

The way I see it, Tournament Poker, Limit cash games and No Limit cash games are 3 very different things.
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Old 10-24-2005, 08:27 PM
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Default Re: Are SNG players good poker players ??

I am really bad at most forms of poker.
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Old 10-24-2005, 08:40 PM
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The way I see it, Tournament Poker, Limit cash games and No Limit cash games are 3 very different things.

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don't forget that six max is also a world away from full ring
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Old 10-24-2005, 08:48 PM
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Default Re: Are SNG players good poker players ??

Are goalies good hockey players?

Are funny car dragsters good drivers?

Are racquetball players good athletes?

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Old 10-24-2005, 09:09 PM
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Default Re: Are SNG players good poker players ??

personally i think it takes a certain type of player to beat online cash games. I'm an overall winner in LIVE cash. And it's what I did before I thought my car would take a crap on me, driving 3 times a week to AC from LI. But I can't win a lick in cash games online. It's really sad actually. SNGs require less ONLINE reading skills and more strategy, than cash games do. So it works better for me.

I think most good players would agree that cash games are much harder to beat and cope with mentally than SNGs or tournaments. So a winning cash game player can become a winning tourn player...but not always the other way around.
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