A less clear hand to comment on for the esteemed panel

[hobbsmann]

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Raising the pot with a/j UTG is not a good play at the 1/2 level IMO.

Once you miss the flop I like a check/fold.

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damnit why the [censored] are so many of you guys soooooooo tight/weak? Raise preflop everytime. Flop play is fine. Fold the turn you don't have odds to continue. Next hand.

[bobhalford]

Depending on the table, I fold AJo UTG. I just hate playing this hand oop. I could never imagine just calling with it though. That's definitely a bad play. I don't think it's a "raise every time" hand UTG just because it's a potential trouble maker in this position. I raise it about half the time and hope for the best.

Don't know if I qualify as esteemed, but here we go...

*grunching*

PREFLOP: raise or fold...esp. since it's unsuited and not a drawing hand.

Edit: suppose you could call up front with AJo, but I'd be less than thrilled to let five players in behind me for one bet. If that happens, you need to hit a pair. Depending on what's been going on, I can sometimes pull off the "raise PF, bet flop, bet turn" unimproved and get players to fold, which is one reason I prefer raising here.

FLOP: maybe I can find a call here...but your gutshot is worthless against QJ. I don't like playing overcards when I don't flop much (I'm notorious for trying to push through unimproved AK...it's a big leak of mine.)

TURN: get out. Small pot...whatever outs you had just got worse with the two-flush.

RIVER: good fold.

ScottieK

[MrEngenic]

I prefer a preflop raise but there is nothing wrong with calling either.
I like a turn fold but I don't think it's a big mistake to call either.

[matt hooley]

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I could never imagine just calling with it though. That's definitely a bad play.

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Why don't you try cracking open SSH and taking a look at the preflop hand recomendations. And the same to anyone who would call such a preflop play "weak-tight".

I raise this preflop. Hopefully that limits the field and the hand plays differently from there. Maybe your continuation bet on the flop with take it down.

BBB

[hobbsmann]

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I could never imagine just calling with it though. That's definitely a bad play.

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Why don't you try cracking open SSH and taking a look at the preflop hand recomendations. And the same to anyone who would call such a preflop play "weak-tight".

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1st off the SSHE recommendations are just that recommendations. As you play more hands you learn when and why certain hands should be raised. Personally through playing in tighter and more aggro games then those described in SSHE I have changed my preflop play that my ranges no longer mirror, although still similar, the recommendations in the book.

If played a decent number of hands from 1/2 to 20/40 on party in the last year and have yet to find a table that I thought it correct to do anything but raise AJo UTG.

[Eeegah]

I raise preflop with this UTG 100% of the time, and the hand plays completely different.

[kiemo]

OH BOY ANOTHER AJo UTG RAISE/CALL DEBATE! YEAH!!!!!!

This hand is completely boring and it gets posted 5 times every week
Fold preflop/flop/turn/river.
Call preflop/flop/turn/river
Raise preflop/flop/turn/river

Circle whichever action you want for any street, you will probably never get two seperate people to agree on it.

[Eeegah]

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you will probably never get two seperate people to agree on it.

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Which is why we have these debates.