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Old 12-01-2005, 07:52 PM
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Default Help, Help, I\'m Joseph Hachem!!!

Not enough hands with villain to have any reads.

I'm wondering if any of you go any more bets on the river? There is the boat possibility along with with the flush draw, but it seems more likely that villain has a lone 4. Thoughts?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP folds, Button calls, SB calls.

Turn: (3.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, Hero calls.

River: (11.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13.50 BB
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Old 12-01-2005, 08:00 PM
bdmcgraw bdmcgraw is offline
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Default Re: Help, Help, I\'m Joseph Hachem!!!

I'd bet\call the river.

The flush is certainly very unlikely being that he capped the turn. Almost no players would cap here with a flush draw, and if he would, you would probably have noticed other crazy plays by now.

I think check\calling the river is also fine though, it is certainly possible he has A4, K4, etc. but he could certainly have a boat with 45, 46. It's hard to put him on a hand here as a limper in .5-1 he could certainly have almost any two cards.

Unless you've seen him be ridiculously aggressive he has something decent here, trips, higher straight, set, all are likely. I would be happy with 2 bets on the river (bet, he raises, you call).
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Old 12-01-2005, 08:19 PM
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Default Re: Help, Help, I\'m Joseph Hachem!!!

Well, a read on this player would definitely help. Against your average player I think you should lead the river and call the raise; I want 1 or 2 bets going in on the river with the second nut straight, we're only realistically worried about 78 plus 55, 66, 64 and 54.

Hmmm. On second thought, that's an awful lot of hands we're behind, not to mention the chance he's holding something like 75 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] for the flush draw, OESD and FH draw. We're ahead of any trips, 32 and insanely played AA/KK but other than that we're looking pretty bad.

Perhaps this is why I've been losing money at 5/10, overplaying the big (but not unbreakable) hands. I just hate to see 0 bets go in on this river when villain checks behind. Any one else have thoughts here?
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Old 12-01-2005, 08:22 PM
imported_leader imported_leader is offline
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Default Re: Help, Help, I\'m Joseph Hachem!!!

31 games 0.005 secs 6,200 games/sec

Board: 5d 4d 6s 4s Js
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 32.2581 % 32.26% 00.00% { 7c3h }
Hand 2: 67.7419 % 67.74% 00.00% { 66-44, A4s, K4s, 87s, 54s, A4o, 87o }

I would check/call the river as OP did
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Old 12-01-2005, 08:25 PM
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Default Re: Help, Help, I\'m Joseph Hachem!!!

Edit: I'm a stupid bumpkin, ignore me.
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Old 12-01-2005, 08:28 PM
imported_leader imported_leader is offline
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Default Re: Help, Help, I\'m Joseph Hachem!!!

4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] is out so he can't have A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
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Old 12-01-2005, 08:30 PM
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[ QUOTE ]
4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] is out so he can't have A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

Maybe he's cheating. Ever think about that? [img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img]

Sorry about that...I'll edit
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Old 12-01-2005, 08:45 PM
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Default Re: Help, Help, I\'m Joseph Hachem!!!

pass teh sugar!

why not bet/call the river?

read on villain might help, but if you think he has 4x, go for it.
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Old 12-02-2005, 12:15 PM
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Default Re: Help, Help, I\'m Joseph Hachem!!!

Villain had A4 FWIW.

Anyone have comments on my flop/turn play? I'm 95% sure this is a flop lead, but I'm unsure about my turn play.
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Old 12-02-2005, 12:25 PM
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Default Re: Help, Help, I\'m Joseph Hachem!!!

range is a little small for a typical party douche at this limit.
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