Nut straight on monochrome flop

TheWorstPlayer · #1 10-05-2005, 11:09 PM

No reads, unfortunately. Just sat down recently. Won two quick pots without much fanfare and now this one. How'd I do?

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Preflop: TWP is MP3 with 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
3 folds, MP1 calls, 1 fold, TWP calls, CO calls, 2 folds, BB raises, MP1 calls, TWP calls, CO calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB bets, MP1 folds, TWP calls, CO raises, BB 3-bets, TWP calls, CO calls.

Turn: (8.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB bets, TWP raises, CO folds, BB calls.

River: (12.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, TWP checks.

Final Pot: 12.75 BB

gopnik · #2 10-05-2005, 11:30 PM

any reason why you are not raising this flop? The pot is pretty big and folding a single small/medium heart would not be bad.
What do you do if BB 3-bets the turn?

TheWorstPlayer · #3 10-05-2005, 11:35 PM

I didn't raise the flop because if a heart hit I was going to fold and if a heart didn't hit, I assumed that I would get the opportunity to raise the turn. And if the BB 3-bet the turn I would cap it up. If CO 3-bet the turn, though, I would fold.

istewart · #4 10-05-2005, 11:39 PM

Preflop limp is pretty sketchy.

If MP1 calls on the flop I will call. Here I think it is very important to raise to possibly fold out a gay heart by CO, for the times that BB has black kings or something.

Greg J · #5 10-05-2005, 11:48 PM

This is a mandatory flop raise. If bet into on the turn I raise again, but slow down if 3 bet.

Good river check through. The only hands that are calling are likely to have you beat, and you may foil any CR attempt.

EDIT: I also don't make this call preflop. I call if I have 3 limpers or more ahead of me. Certainly not with one.

TheWorstPlayer · #6 10-05-2005, 11:54 PM

So limp is too loose (I had a feeling it was, but I'm used to no limit) and I shouldn't bother to call flop so that I can raise the turn, I should just raise the flop. And this is because I might get CO to fold a small heart on the flop whereas he probably won't fold it if a heart hits the turn. Yes?

Roadstar · #7 10-06-2005, 01:18 AM

Flop call is too loose - you don't have the implied odds to stack someone when you hit [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

On the flop - I don't blame you for calling because you'll hoping for just calls behind you so that you can be bet into on the turn and raise with a non heart (where your equity jumps considerable) or even fold when a heart drops.

BUT - when the action gets that heavy you just have to cap it for value (nobody with a high heart is going anywhere at this point)

Turn - good

River - good

Now, please teach me NL, I'm trying to start at NL25 and I need some sort of preflop strategy/starting chart as a guide - everytime I ask that in NL I get the "the money is made post flop" line [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

TheWorstPlayer · #8 10-06-2005, 06:11 PM

The money is made postflop in NL. But to start off, just play AK and pairs. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Rev. Good Will · #9 10-06-2005, 06:18 PM

PF limp is pretty bad

I also am wondering why you didn't raise the flop, you might have been left HU with BB who most likely has a single heart.

#10 10-06-2005, 06:18 PM

Another reason to raise the flop is that there's a good chance BB won't bet the turn.