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Old 07-05-2005, 09:38 PM
meleader2 meleader2 is offline
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Default Top set folded

wow bison's is really botched, tried to fix it best i could...


villain in the hand was 3%/0% after 100 hands. PFA of .7
after his turn bet, if i had called he would have had a stack of 7$ left.


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Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
4 players ended up seeing this flop, noone raised.

Flop: ($1.35) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero bets pot ($1.50), Villain min raises to ($3). (2 folds), Hero calls ($1.50).

Turn: ($7ish) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks (should i have led the turn?) Villain bets pot ($7.35). Hero folds.

Final Pot: $14ish
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Old 07-05-2005, 09:52 PM
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Default Re: Top set folded

I would have put him all in there on the turn. I can't imagine being behind often enough for this not to be profitable. I would think re-raising is going to take the pot down in most cases.
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Old 07-05-2005, 09:57 PM
Ghazban Ghazban is offline
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Default Re: Top set folded

Weak. Too many combinations of: JJ,JT,T9,T8,98,87,88,77 around to fold. You don't mention which stack is villain's but putting 100xBB in on this hand is +EV in the long run without a read (which I assume you don't have as you didn't mention one).
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Old 07-05-2005, 10:03 PM
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Default Re: Top set folded

If he has JQ, he has JQ. Most of the time he wont. Get him all in.
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Old 07-05-2005, 10:25 PM
DMACM DMACM is offline
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Default Re: Top set folded

What position was villain in? If this guy is 3% vP$IP and not in a blind what are the odds he has a broadway? Maybe on the button but I doubt it, my guess is villan has a lower set or an overpair.
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Old 07-05-2005, 10:42 PM
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Default Re: Top set folded

Push the flop. It's very likely that you have the best hand and if you're drawing, I'd rather have my money in as a 2:1 dog than a 4:1 dog on the turn.
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Old 07-05-2005, 10:53 PM
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Default Re: Top set folded

weak ... of course i cant tell what villians stack is. if its smallish i would fold here
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Old 07-05-2005, 10:54 PM
Student Caine Student Caine is offline
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Default Re: Top set folded

I am as weak-tight as they come and I do not drop this hand.

I would have led the turn, but given that you did not and he bet I would have Check-Raised him the pot. He could have QJ here, but there are way too many other hands that he does this with (two pair or sets, all of which you have beat) - and on the off chance that he does have QJ you have outs.
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Old 07-05-2005, 11:13 PM
srm80 srm80 is offline
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Default Re: Top set folded

he also could have entered with 67s and flopped the bottom straight, which is more likely since the pot wasn't raised. After the straight hit he knew you would call a min-raise, and the turn was a safe card for his bottom straight so he made the pot-bet. Just a thought. I would have made it like 4 bets pre flop
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Old 07-06-2005, 12:10 AM
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Default Re: Top set folded

This guy is waay more likely to play 88/99 than JQ, even suited.
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