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sfer · #1 11-07-2005, 01:23 PM

Borgata game, 10 handed. ABCish too loose player openlimps in the hijack, two donkeys call, SB donkey completes, I check K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] in the BB. 5 players, 5 SBs.

Flop is K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB checks, I bet, HJ raises, folds to me and I call.

HU for 4.5 BBs. Turn is the 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. I check, HJ checks.

River is the 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. I check intending to raise.

brettbrettr · #2 11-07-2005, 01:29 PM

I made a similar raise on Saturday I knew I wasn't going to get called but I was sort of pissed that I gave him a card so I check-raised the river to say [censored] you.

I guess in this hand you gain a bit when he folds a better king he was just trying to show down. Obv he's folding most of the time.

Nh.

Soh · #3 11-07-2005, 02:07 PM

"...when he folds a better king..." <font color="blue"> </font>

I don't think he'll fold a better King here.

Soh

#4 11-07-2005, 02:38 PM

Isn't his flop raise also consistent with a hand like A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]? I'd be a little concerned that there were several players still left to act behind him when he raised the flop - indicating that he was on something other than a strong draw.

flopmonster · #5 11-07-2005, 02:51 PM

I like a check/called river bc of the possibility of the ste here.

hicherbie · #6 11-07-2005, 02:30 PM

this guy wont check a turn with a king.

brettbrettr · #7 11-07-2005, 02:39 PM

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this guy wont check a turn with a king.

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Yeah, you're right. My bad.

brettbrettr · #8 11-07-2005, 02:42 PM

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I made a similar raise on Saturday I knew I wasn't going to get called but I was sort of pissed that I gave him a card so I check-raised the river to say [censored] you.

I guess in this hand you gain a bit when he folds a better king he was just trying to show down. Obv he's folding most of the time.

Nh.

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OK, my thoughts about him folding a better king are retarded. 2 things:

1. The river check-raise is basically a metagame don't [censored] with me move b/c he's clearly not calling with a worse hand.

2. If he bets the turn and the river, you fold the river, right?

deetle · #9 11-07-2005, 01:35 PM

Im not sure your river action matters, looks like he missed his flush and being ABC I dont think he is bluffing at this

krimson · #10 11-07-2005, 01:40 PM

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Im not sure your river action matters, looks like he missed his flush and being ABC I dont think he is bluffing at this

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But he's certainly not calling a river bet with his missed draw, so inducing a bluff is our best way of extracting that bet. ABC players will bet missed draws when checked to, in his eyes it's the only chance he has of winning the pot.