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Old 07-09-2005, 02:30 PM
elonkra elonkra is offline
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Default Too Tight?

Is this a bad preflop fold? The other two options that I see are:

1. Pushing, but I'm not really sure when is it appropriate to start pushing w/more than 10xBB w/mediocre hands in a relatively tight game like this?

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2. Standard raise to t300, but this puts me in a position where I have to bet more than 1/3 of my stack on the flop to make a continuation bet. Do I standard bet and check-fold if I miss against a single caller?



$5.50 UB Turbo SNG
Nine-handed
50/100 Blinds

MDestiny is at seat 0 with 1835.
Topcntrlr is at seat 1 with 805.
spill_21 is at seat 2 with 2725.
tiffer is at seat 4 with 320.
rajo is at seat 5 with 2010.
turtleheadguy is at seat 6 with 2100.
yaspmed is at seat 7 with 1905.
ftaggie is at seat 8 with 1995.
<font color="red"> arknole is at seat 9 with 1305. </font>
The button is at seat 4.

rajo posts the small blind of 50.
turtleheadguy posts the big blind of 100.

MDestiny: -- --
Topcntrlr: -- --
spill_21: -- --
tiffer: -- --
rajo: -- --
turtleheadguy: -- --
yaspmed: -- --
ftaggie: -- --
<font color="red"> arknole: Ac Ts </font>

Pre-flop:

yaspmed folds. ftaggie folds. <font color="red"> arknole folds. </font>

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Old 07-09-2005, 02:39 PM
Oluwafemi Oluwafemi is offline
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Default Re: Too Tight?

raise: 255 to 300.

if the game is that tight, only somebody with a good hand is gonna call or reraise.
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Old 07-09-2005, 02:47 PM
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Default Re: Too Tight?

So it's hit or check-fold on the flop then, correct?
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Old 07-09-2005, 03:07 PM
Oluwafemi Oluwafemi is offline
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Default Re: Too Tight?

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So it's hit or check-fold on the flop then, correct?

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raising is correct for me, due mostly in part, because it's the type of player i am and because i'm a good postflop player.

also, a good player is gonna recognize when the table is tighter than normal but not very tight. you can loosening up more and raise with hands like A 10s.
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Old 07-09-2005, 03:52 PM
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Default Re: Too Tight?

I understand your general rationale, but I'm not sure how being "a good postflop player" helps here all that much.
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Old 07-09-2005, 03:54 PM
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Default Re: Too Tight?

Meh, seems fine to me.
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Old 07-09-2005, 03:57 PM
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Default Re: Too Tight?

I'm not expert, but I play the 5s at Euro, and this is a very standard laydown for me.

Under no circumstance would I raise on the flop, unless I hit both pair on a rainbow board.

I think at the 5s with so many players, there's nearly no such thing as "too-tight."
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Old 07-09-2005, 04:06 PM
Oluwafemi Oluwafemi is offline
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I understand your general rationale, but I'm not sure how being "a good postflop player" helps here all that much.

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alot of players at the lower levels simply are'nt good at post flop play. even when i miss my flop with a hand like this, i'm alot better at spotting and exploiting oppurtunities like bluffing.

example: say the flop comes 5h 3c 5d

let's then say only one player called and it went check-check to the turn: 3s

you now have two pair with an Ace kicker, a clear semi-bluff oppurtunity with likely the best hand for me. i can't see anybody with 6 6-A A checking this flop after calling a raise preflop in these types of games. when you are good and have alot of experience preflop in situations with your holding, you can still win alot of pots postflop with missed hands when you know what you're doing.
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Old 07-09-2005, 04:09 PM
Oluwafemi Oluwafemi is offline
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I'm not expert, but I play the 5s at Euro, and this is a very standard laydown for me.

Under no circumstance would I raise on the flop, unless I hit both pair on a rainbow board.

I think at the 5s with so many players, there's nearly no such thing as "too-tight."

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but he did say a tight game though. a good player, even at the $5s, can play more hands than a bad one. it's precisely why i would raise.
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Old 07-09-2005, 04:11 PM
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Yeah, no, I totally disagree.

Loosing up in the 5s is sort of the dumbest strategy I've heard yet.
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