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08-14-2005, 04:51 PM
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Final Table OESD vs All-In
Empire 25+2 $5000 Daily Guaranteed(422355) Table #1 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button Total number of players : 6 Seat 1: HERO ( $25961 ) Seat 6: Villain ( $19105 ) Seat 8: UTG ( $28905 ) Seat 9: UTG+1 ( $33781 ) Seat 2: button ( $52989 ) Seat 7: BB ( $42259 ) Trny:14812719 Level:13 Blinds (750/1500) ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to HERO [ K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ] UTG folds. UTG+1 folds. HERO raises [3500]. button folds. Villain raises [4750]. BB folds. HERO calls [2000]. ** Dealing Flop ** [ J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] , T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ] Villian is all-In. Hero ???? Villian is very solid and conservative. He had played about 10-15% of the pots and always showed premium hands when he showed. Preflop -- entire table had been very tight. There had been very few flops. Many hands were being taken down for min bets. 2.5x BB raises were good in most cases. I should have had a very tight image as well. Villain's re-raise signalled to me a strong hand, most likely TT-AA, AK, or AQs+. If he had a smaller pp, I think he would have pushed harder. These were my reads. I call. Is this a mistake given my reads? Flop -- I get an OESD and a backdoor flush. His push tells me that the flop was good to him and he doesn't want me to call. If he has QQ, then I have 12.5 outs (8 for SD, 1.5 for bd flush and 3 kings.) If he has KK, then I have 8 outs. If he has TT-JJ, then I have 9.5 outs and have to avoid FH. If he has AA with a club, then I might only have 6 outs. AK seems unlikely now, unless he has AK of clubs in which case I have 7 outs and need to avoid a club. AQ of clubs also gives me 7 outs. In all of these scenarios, do I have enough to call? I am sure that he is not bluffing, but I would give about a 5% chance that he's just making a move. 
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#2
08-14-2005, 05:00 PM
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Re: Final Table OESD vs All-In
Getting almost 2-1 with an OESD+overcards+BDFD this is an easy call.
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#3
08-14-2005, 05:14 PM
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Re: Final Table OESD vs All-In
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Villain's re-raise signalled to me a strong hand [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] His push tells me that the flop was good to him [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I am sure that he is not bluffing [/ QUOTE ] Sounds like you already knew the answer.
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#4
08-14-2005, 05:55 PM
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Re: Final Table OESD vs All-In
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Sounds like you already knew the answer. [/ QUOTE ] I figured that I was behind, but if one never takes a chance, then I don't think they will be winning many MTTs. I'm curious if this is spot that many of the better MTT players would gamble.
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#6
08-14-2005, 06:08 PM
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Re: Final Table OESD vs All-In
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Also, folding would make me the short stack. Should that play a part in my thought process? [/ QUOTE ] Calling and losing will make you an even shorter stack. That said, this is a call.
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#7
08-14-2005, 06:11 PM
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Re: Final Table OESD vs All-In
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I'm curious if this is spot that many of the better MTT players would gamble. [/ QUOTE ] I fully support taking chances, but with an unsuited drawing hand against an opponent that never shows anything but strength, I'm more likely to fall back and protect. There's a time to take chances, but a bid for 6th place when you are pretty sure you're beat is not it [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [ QUOTE ] Also, folding would make me the short stack. Should that play a part in my thought process? [/ QUOTE ] Absolutely... but don't forget that a call with the worst hand (you have already guessed as much, yes?) will leave you a much shorter stack. You're in this hand.. the question is, are you in it for all you're worth?
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#8
08-14-2005, 06:26 PM
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Re: Final Table OESD vs All-In
Call. Even if villain has top pair or an overpair, you are only slightly behind the pot odds you are getting.
It is not great for table image, but I would consider folding preflop given your impression of villain. KQo doesn't play well against standard rerasing hands like AA, KK, QQ, AK, and AQ.
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#10
08-14-2005, 06:36 PM
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Re: Final Table OESD vs All-In
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I don't think you can consider folding for a minimum re-raise [/ QUOTE ] I agree it doesn't look good, but a minimum reraise is often a big pair. A minimum reraise from a tight player looks scary.
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