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Old 12-01-2005, 02:40 AM
SossMan SossMan is offline
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Default I don\'t respond to donk bets well

live rebuy tourney at garden city today. I got moved to this table about 10 min ago and have stole the blinds once, folded the rest, including open folding on the button and SB respectively (had a decent read on the fellow to my left from playing w/ him previously, he snaps a chip on his cards when he plans on playing them after looking at them and holds them in his hands when he doesn't. Both times he had snapped the chip on top and i had garbage, so i figured i would wait).

I have 3600, blinds are 100-200.
Folded to me in the CO and I raise to 600. Folded to BB.

BB had been pretty active and I could tell was very inexperienced. Well, just enough experience to get him in trouble. He had a decent sized stack that he got off one of the good players by calling a pretty big all in overbet w/ A9s saying "it's my favorite hand" and hitting a one card st8 on the river.

So, he calls fairly quickly. Didn't look like he considered raising or folding.

Flop is A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

he bets out 500 into 1300 pot and I have exactly 3k left.

wtfdid?
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Old 12-01-2005, 02:42 AM
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Default Re: I don\'t respond to donk bets well

am i just missing your hand, or was it intentionally left out?
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Old 12-01-2005, 02:43 AM
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Default Re: I don\'t respond to donk bets well

More like wtfdoyouhave?
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Old 12-01-2005, 02:43 AM
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Default Re: I don\'t respond to donk bets well

Holy christ you're aggro, raising without cards and all.

Edit: wow, I'm slow.
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Old 12-01-2005, 02:45 AM
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Default Re: I don\'t respond to donk bets well

is this a "guess my hand" post?

and why is a 1/3 pot bet a donk bet?

given his play with the A9, you're obviously not pushing him off any kind of hand so what you actually have is pretty important here. weak players are the ones you rely on to pay you off when you have them beat ... trying to get fancy if you don't have a hand doesn't usually work since they are hard to bluff (just ask Annie Duke).
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Old 12-01-2005, 03:03 AM
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Default Re: I don\'t respond to donk bets well

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and why is a 1/3 pot bet a donk bet?

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i raised preflop and now he's leading into me = donkbet

(it's a term, not a description per se)
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Old 12-01-2005, 03:10 AM
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Default Re: I don\'t respond to donk bets well

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and why is a 1/3 pot bet a donk bet?

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i raised preflop and now he's leading into me = donkbet

(it's a term, not a description per se)

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call me a donk but i do this ALL the time when i flop a good hand, particularly if i'm heads up and flop a set. i lead into the raiser with a 1/3-1/2 pot bet, get raised by TPTK or an overpair, and end up re-raising all-in with a hand that has him beat. i prefer this line vs. check-raises b/c check-raises send off too many warning signs.
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Old 12-01-2005, 03:25 AM
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Default Re: I don\'t respond to donk bets well

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and why is a 1/3 pot bet a donk bet?

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i raised preflop and now he's leading into me = donkbet

(it's a term, not a description per se)

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call me a donk but i do this ALL the time when i flop a good hand, particularly if i'm heads up and flop a set. i lead into the raiser with a 1/3-1/2 pot bet, get raised by TPTK or an overpair, and end up re-raising all-in with a hand that has him beat. i prefer this line vs. check-raises b/c check-raises send off too many warning signs.

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like i said before, it's a description of the play, not the player. It's more of a limit thing. It's simply leading into the preflop raiser after just calling preflop.

In this particular spot, it happened to be a fantastic bet w/ whatever he had (though I'm quite sure it was accidental)
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Old 12-01-2005, 02:45 AM
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you should. its the way i learned.
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Old 12-01-2005, 03:06 AM
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Default Re: I don\'t respond to donk bets well

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you should. its the way i learned.

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i should what? learn to deal w/ these bets? it's really my stack size that creates my issue.

Folding feels so damn weak, but I tried to find a line and couldn't.
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