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Old 07-21-2004, 10:40 AM
JSD JSD is offline
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Default JSD\'s guide to straddling at low limits (x-post)

(cross-posted from microlimits at the request of Clarkmeister)

While playing 3/6 with 2+2ers bisonbison and bakku last night at Garden City, it came to my attention that while most 2+2ers are proficient at playing solid tight-aggressive (or at least weaktight) poker, many of us do not completely understand one the the subtler nuances of playing live, namely the LIVE STRADDLE. Therefore, I provide you all with a short (and hopefully useful) guide on the subject.

1) Your straddle to beer ratio should be at least 1:1. You beer to orbit ratio should also be at least 1:1. After this many beers, the math gets fuzzy, but it conveniently works out that you should be straddling every orbit.

2) When straddling, it is important to let the table know this. Loudly accouncing "LIVE SIX" as you push your chips out is mandatory. Think of it as a public service announcement.

3) It is incredibly poor form to look at your hole cards pre-flop when straddling. This will jinx any chance you have of winning. After all, 72o isn't really 72o until you look, right?

4) Under no circumstances should you ever fold pre-flop when straddling. If it comes back to you 3-bet or capped (and it likely will) you MUST MUST call. Any two will do! Besides, you haven't looked yet, so for all you know, you've got two aces down there.

5) It is highly recommended that you exercise your option to 3-bet or cap out of your straddle. The more people in the hand with you, the more likely you should be to 3-bet/cap. It is good form when doing this to loudly say "lets build a pot for somebody!" Note that if you 3-bet out of your straddle after a bunch of callers, it is damn near mathematical certainty that one of this original callers will cap while yelling "GAMBOOOOOOL!"

6) Bet the flop (whether you've looked at your cards or not). If the SB or BB bets, raise. The flop is getting capped anyways so you might as well show strength. You still have two cards to come. You cannot fold. You'll notice that nobody else is folding. Learn from them.

7) Suckout on the the river. This is the more important aspect of straddling. It is critical that you hit your runner-runner draw to the nuts. The more you straddle, the more proficient you will become at this.

8) When tabling you winner, make sure you say "just the nuts!" in a triumphant manner, as if it was a pre-determined outcome that you would drag a 30BB pot when you pushed those six chips out to the left of the big blind.

9) "SERVICE!! Get me another Sierra Nevada, pronto!"

10) Repeat.
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Old 07-21-2004, 11:05 AM
fsuplayer fsuplayer is offline
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Default Re: JSD\'s guide to straddling at low limits (x-post)

We tried all of the above in the Borgata NL game, not only did they not allow the straddle to be live, most of the dealers/players had not even heard of it!! [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

This is/was a very depressing time in the poker world...

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Old 07-21-2004, 11:34 AM
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Default Re: JSD\'s guide to straddling at low limits (x-post)

they told me that live straddles are illegal in NJ. fortunately, the nyc live straddle is still in full effect, at least in the PL HE. they banned straddling in the PLO game because there were restraddles every hand!

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Old 07-21-2004, 11:58 AM
Patrick del Poker Grande Patrick del Poker Grande is offline
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It seems a bit odd to me that they allow the live straddle in Colorado. The maximum single-bet wager allowed in CO is $5, yet players were straddling like maniacs the last time I was in the casino putting in $10 at once right from the start. If you can allow a live straddle like this, then allow a freaking real structure like 5/10 instead of the lame-as-The-Crew 5/5 structure they make us play here.
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Old 07-21-2004, 11:59 AM
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Default Re: JSD\'s guide to straddling at low limits (x-post)

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We tried all of the above in the Borgata NL game, not only did they not allow the straddle to be live, most of the dealers/players had not even heard of it!! [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

This is/was a very depressing time in the poker world...

fsuplayer

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Just raise in the dark after the deal [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 07-21-2004, 12:03 PM
Sponger15SB Sponger15SB is offline
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5) It is highly recommended that you exercise your option to 3-bet or cap out of your straddle. The more people in the hand with you, the more likely you should be to 3-bet/cap. It is good form when doing this to loudly say "lets build a pot for somebody!" Note that if you 3-bet out of your straddle after a bunch of callers, it is damn near mathematical certainty that one of this original callers will cap while yelling "GAMBOOOOOOL!"

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haha oh god this is hilarious
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Old 07-21-2004, 12:04 PM
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We tried all of the above in the Borgata NL game, not only did they not allow the straddle to be live, most of the dealers/players had not even heard of it!!

This is/was a very depressing time in the poker world...

fsuplayer


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Just raise in the dark after the deal

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Oh, believe me, we did this, but its not nearly as much fun bc you cant pop it again when it gets called around to you.
It takes the bite, as well as the fun out of the art of straddling.

fsuplayer
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Old 07-21-2004, 12:12 PM
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Just raise in the dark after the deal [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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betting the pot dark is a separate skill, one of the few things I do well at the poker table. I can't count the amount of times people have become confused after seeing the flop, hearing "40 to you, sir" and realizing that I bet the pot in the dark.

--turnipmonster
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