Makes sense to NOT move up?

HonchoOverload · #1 11-21-2005, 01:45 AM

If you're absolutely killing one of the intermediate levels like the $33s, doesn't it make more sense NOT to move up? I've seen a lot of posts stating that people are killing a certain level like the $33s at like a 45% ROI and it seems like if you're doing so, DON'T move up because there's no way you'll make that kind of $$$$ at the $55s or the $109s or the $215s.

I play a comparable level to the $33s (although I play the six-handed stars tourneys, so I'm not sure how the ROI and such would differ), and with just a few hundred tourneys I'm killing them for a 31% ROI. At this rate, based on what the FAQ says the expected ROI is for the higher levels, I'm not sure I'd want to move up!!! Anyone else feel staying at the mid levels is better than moving up?

In order to make the same $$$$ as I do now by moving up to the $55s, I'd have to be cruising at a 20% ROI and I'm not sure that's possible as the competition starts getting more pro at that limit...

runner4life7 · #2 11-21-2005, 01:52 AM

did you happen to look at the ROI for the 30s on the same page? how about you look again and realize what a "heater" is

splashpot · #3 11-21-2005, 02:03 AM

20%ROI at the $33s is the same as 12%ROI at the $55s. Of course it makes sense to move up.

HonchoOverload · #4 11-21-2005, 02:03 AM

Alright, assuming I accept the fact that I'm on a 700 tourney heater (which actually I agree with), I'm asking if there are people who actually prefer to play a the 33s over the 55s or the 55s over the 109s because the $$$$ just works out better in the long run

runner4life7 · #5 11-21-2005, 02:37 AM

with that said, actually I am one of those that prefers the 30s over the 55s, with about 1000 30s played and 300 50s played.

Slim Pickens · #6 11-21-2005, 02:41 AM

You can make some arguement for not moving up if

a) your ROI is higher at the 33's (probably true)
b) you can play more tables at the 33's because the fewer starting chips leave you with fewer complicated hands and more push/fold preflop per tournament.

Play around with different ROI and # of tables, as well as maybe 10 min less per tournament (or 5 per set if you play in sets) and see what you get.

durron597 · #7 11-21-2005, 02:50 AM

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Slim Pickens · #8 11-21-2005, 03:08 AM

Durron is going citanul on us tonight.

EDIT: got it before it got locked! woot.

raptor517 · #9 11-21-2005, 03:11 AM

i assure you even the 119 turbo 6 maxes on stars are about as donkey filled as the 22s on party. you wont have too much trouble. holla

GrekeHaus · #10 11-21-2005, 04:47 AM

You will make more at the 55s than the 33s if your ROI at the 55s is 3/5 of your ROI at the 33s. If you have a decent ROI at the 33s, this should be possible, but if your ROI is small, you might make less or even lose at the higher levels.

Other things to consider:

1) It might be worth moving up even if you make less money at the 55s if you're interested in working on your total game. However, if your ROI is small enough that you make less money, you probably can still learn quite a bit at the 33s.

2) The 33s start with fewer chips so the games go faster. Thus, a similar win rate in terms of $/tournament will make you more $/hour at the 33s.

3) A similar win rate at the 33s will have fewer significant downswings because the absolute ROI is higher.