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Old 07-03-2005, 02:10 PM
augie00 augie00 is offline
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Default stars $114 turbo - big draw on the bubble

Am I a sissy?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) converter

BB (t1620)
UTG (t2820)
Button (t4625)
Hero (t4435)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t400</font>, Hero calls t300, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (t1000) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets t1000</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t2000
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Old 07-03-2005, 02:13 PM
Nacarno Nacarno is offline
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Default Re: stars $114 turbo - big draw on the bubble

This is just me, but if I decide to play T9 against the chip leader at this point in the game, I'm not playing it to fold a monster draw on the flop where I'm probably the favorite. So basically, I'd push, but in general I'd fold PF.
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Old 07-03-2005, 02:16 PM
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Default Re: stars $114 turbo - big draw on the bubble

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This is just me, but if I decide to play T9 against the chip leader at this point in the game, I'm not playing it to fold a monster draw on the flop where I'm probably the favorite. So basically, I'd push, but in general I'd fold PF.

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basically what i was going to say. why call PF if you're going to fold the perfect flop.
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Old 07-03-2005, 03:11 PM
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Default Re: stars $114 turbo - big draw on the bubble

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basically what i was going to say. why call PF if you're going to fold the perfect flop.

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Because the villain is showing strength and is probably not going to fold. It's obvious I have to play for all of my chips, right?

Does everyone always feel so comfortable flipping a coin w/ the big stack right on the bubble?
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Old 07-03-2005, 03:15 PM
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Default Re: stars $114 turbo - big draw on the bubble

My point is. I think if you're only going to play this if you flop hard, AND you get a chance to c/r with some FE, then you should fold it, because those two scenarios won't happen nearly enough.
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Old 07-03-2005, 03:47 PM
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Default Re: stars $114 turbo - big draw on the bubble

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My point is. I think if you're only going to play this if you flop hard, AND you get a chance to c/r with some FE, then you should fold it, because those two scenarios won't happen nearly enough.

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So you think the play in this hand is to fold pf for 200 more?
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Old 07-03-2005, 02:29 PM
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Default Re: stars $114 turbo - big draw on the bubble

Yes, you play poker like a girl.

I c/r here 100% of the time but I'd fold if he dumped his stack.
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Old 07-03-2005, 04:06 PM
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Default Re: stars $114 turbo - big draw on the bubble

If you double through this guy, you can basically put a bow around the tournament and mail it to yourself. You're a favorite over pretty much everything. I don't see how you're getting away from this.

Plus, I think you have SOME fold equity by pushing. Even if it's small, there is a chance he's folding.
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Old 07-03-2005, 04:15 PM
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If you double through this guy, you can basically put a bow around the tournament and mail it to yourself. You're a favorite over pretty much everything. I don't see how you're getting away from this.

Plus, I think you have SOME fold equity by pushing. Even if it's small, there is a chance he's folding.

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I agree. his bet could very well be a steal attempt. I you go all in, i think you have some fold equity. If not, you are prob around a coinflip and a win puts you in VERY nice shape.
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Old 07-03-2005, 04:21 PM
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If not, you are prob around a coinflip and a win puts you in VERY nice shape.

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If you take into account my opinion that he's not folding here, would you still push?
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