JJ pf fold.... should i lay this down pf?

luckycharms · #1 10-02-2005, 04:45 PM

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) converter

saw flop|saw showdown

MP2 (t1400)
CO (t2130)
Hero (t1730)
SB (t3140)
BB (t1470)
UTG (t640)
UTG+1 (t1600)
MP1 (t1390)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t30, MP1 calls t30, 1 fold, CO raises to t60, Hero calls t60, SB raises to t3155, 1 fold, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, CO folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t3365

Results in white below: 
No showdown. SB wins t3365.

valenzuela · #2 10-02-2005, 04:48 PM

without reads, yes.

Sykes · #3 10-02-2005, 04:51 PM

SB would have to be a complete donk for me to call.

As in, He needs to show me A/K/Qrag 90% of the time before I call this.

pearljam · #4 10-02-2005, 05:20 PM

In this situation you need a read, if you havent been paying attention press the timer button and go through the hand historys real quick to see how he built his stack. If your to lazy for all that make the default play and fold.

bigt439 · #5 10-02-2005, 06:44 PM

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In this situation you need a read, if you havent been paying attention press the timer button and go through the hand historys real quick to see how he built his stack. If your to lazy for all that make the default play and fold.

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Plus raise the first time it gets to you pf.

Pudge714 · #6 10-02-2005, 07:33 PM

Buyin? Also I might reraise here that gives you a better read on the pusher. I often see this overpush with AK who doesn't want to play a missed flop. So you are probably racing.

Taraz · #7 10-02-2005, 08:20 PM

I think you played it fine. I don't really agree that you need to raise preflop either.

bigt439 · #8 10-02-2005, 08:42 PM

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I think you played it fine. I don't really agree that you need to raise preflop either.

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Why not with his stack. Otherwise you're taking this at least 4 way and that's junk with JJ. You're way a head of anyone's range in this hand, you have to raise with your position.

Uppercut · #9 10-02-2005, 10:33 PM

Looks to me like the SB wants to be the table bully, and isn't too afraid of a weak raise and then a flat call. He is raising all-in because he doesn't want a call from either of you. Call here and double up against his ATo.