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[PokerBob]

first hand. i have no idea who this dude is.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (4.33 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (3.16 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: (7.16 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 11.16 BB

[milesdyson]

c/r flop, bet bet. he will call down w/ AK, 77/88/99/TT/JJ.

when he raises the turn his range would seem to be AA/KK/QQ/AQ (and some worse hands), and he'll most likely bet the river with all of those but only raise with AA/KK/QQ, so just check call. if he raised you with a worse hand on the turn, he is probably aggressive enough to bet the river with it.

[Redd]

I'm focusing on 'the dyson' because he was the first, but this can be addressed to all the flop c/rers:

Why are we so sure he'll pay off with an underpair or AK here for more than one street?

[scotty34]

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I'm focusing on 'the dyson' because he was the first, but this can be addressed to all the flop c/rers:

Why are we so sure he'll pay off with an underpair or AK here for more than one street?

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What would you do with an underpair or AK on a Q22 flop against an aggressive player?

[milesdyson]

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I'm focusing on 'the dyson' because he was the first, but this can be addressed to all the flop c/rers:

Why are we so sure he'll pay off with an underpair or AK here for more than one street?

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What would you do with an underpair or AK on a Q22 flop against an aggressive player?

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yeah basically i totally expect him to call down with AK, any pair, and some worse aces. no one will ever find a fold with 88-JJ here.

i also expect him to at least sometimes peel the flop with some other hands like KJ, KTs, etc.

But he's not calling down. C/R flop. Bet/raise turn. If he calls turn, bet river. If he raises turn, check/call.

[imported_leader]

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Why are we so sure he'll pay off with an underpair or AK here for more than one street?

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I see it happen a ton. AK probably isn't calling the river UI but it could. Underpairs call this down a ton on a paired board with one high card. This kind of flop get's bluffed a lot at 3/6.

[Buckmulligan]

Dyson...

Versus your hand range, wouldn't it be better to smooth call and check raise the turn?

[milesdyson]

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Dyson...

Versus your hand range, wouldn't it be better to smooth call and check raise the turn?

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but i can then find folds... that's the point.

when you check raise the flop he can put you on underpairs and flush draws. you also never give him the chance to turn a [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and take the free card when you check, which i feel is really important.

[imported_leader]

I'd cr the flop. If you're going to donk the turn 3-bet it.