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11-10-2005, 01:21 PM
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Re: 50/100 NL hand vs Far
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One problem with this push is he can have a pair + diamond draw now and be priced into calling. [/ QUOTE ] Do you think he has the right price to call with a pair/flush draw? 
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#2
11-10-2005, 01:58 PM
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Re: 50/100 NL hand vs Far
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[ QUOTE ] One problem with this push is he can have a pair + diamond draw now and be priced into calling. [/ QUOTE ] Do you think he has the right price to call with a pair/flush draw? [/ QUOTE ] no, but its close enough that most players arent folding.
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#3
11-10-2005, 02:06 PM
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Re: 50/100 NL hand vs Far
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] One problem with this push is he can have a pair + diamond draw now and be priced into calling. [/ QUOTE ] Do you think he has the right price to call with a pair/flush draw? [/ QUOTE ] no, but its close enough that most players arent folding. [/ QUOTE ] definitely agreeing w/ fsuplayer here. i dont see most players folding. so i guess if opponent is most players i dont like it.
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#4
11-10-2005, 02:11 PM
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Re: 50/100 NL hand vs Far
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] One problem with this push is he can have a pair + diamond draw now and be priced into calling. [/ QUOTE ] Do you think he has the right price to call with a pair/flush draw? [/ QUOTE ] no, but its close enough that most players arent folding. [/ QUOTE ] don't you think those 'most players' are right to consider, that hero might be bluffing (with a probability of at very least 10%)?
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#6
11-10-2005, 02:17 PM
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Re: 50/100 NL hand vs Far
The truth is that nobody ever checkraises with a draw and folds it on the same street. Never.
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#7
11-10-2005, 02:29 PM
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Re: 50/100 NL hand vs Far
Kane, i think your read that he is a loose caller and doesn't exercise good pot control go against betting this turn here, as he won't fold as often as you like. When he raises, you are put to a tough decision because it costs you your whole to stack to semi-bluff and you will be called a lot. I would rather see a turn check, and if you hit on the river you will have a shot at getting a decent amount of money in.
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#8
11-10-2005, 02:32 PM
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Re: 50/100 NL hand vs Far
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The truth is that nobody ever checkraises with a draw and folds it on the same street. Never. [/ QUOTE ] Ding ding. I don't really see how this is even being debated being that in the first line of OP: [ QUOTE ] He has made a few loose calls, and I feel that he is a loose caller. [/ QUOTE ] WTF? So why are you even 3betting here?
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#9
11-10-2005, 07:19 PM
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Re: 50/100 NL hand vs Far
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The truth is that nobody ever checkraises with a draw and folds it on the same street. Never. [/ QUOTE ] yea... hu kane id check the turn, call some rivers with just 4s and raise/put in nice value bet if i do hit. that would be standard tho, no? also - and I have a feeling you wont answer this - why minraise this hand pf? very interesting to me.
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#10
11-10-2005, 02:10 PM
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Re: 50/100 NL hand vs Far
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[ QUOTE ] One problem with this push is he can have a pair + diamond draw now and be priced into calling. [/ QUOTE ] Do you think he has the right price to call with a pair/flush draw? [/ QUOTE ] this is far out of my expertise, but anyway... he gets almost 3:1 on his call. if he has a diamond draw+pair, he has 7 to 14 outs if behind, lets say 10(?) on average. if he is ahead against a semi bluff, he usualy has 29 or 30 good cards in the deck (32 or 33 if the rank of one card matches yours). that means there must be only a chance of about 10% that you are semi bluffing to make the call correct. that means he should definitely call with a pair + diamond draw imo.
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