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Old 12-07-2005, 01:55 PM
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Default Counting outs test

Something to ponder. Won't take you long but you should definitely grunch.

How many outs?
Hero has red JJ.

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Old 12-07-2005, 01:56 PM
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wow dude, way too many things left out of the equation
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Old 12-07-2005, 01:58 PM
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?????
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Old 12-07-2005, 02:01 PM
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Ok.

*grunch*

If we are behind we have 4,09 outs.
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Old 12-07-2005, 02:07 PM
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I'll bite. Less than 2. You're jack outs have to be discounted because they could make str8s for others, so 1.5 outs. There are bd str8 outs, but only 1 to the nuts so maybe add 1/2 an out for that.
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Old 12-07-2005, 02:09 PM
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I'll bite. Less than 2. You're jack outs have to be discounted because they could make str8s for others, so 1.5 outs. There are bd str8 outs, but only 1 to the nuts so maybe add 1/2 an out for that.

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Dammit. I need to think more. I knew my answer was to easy.
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Old 12-07-2005, 02:10 PM
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Ok.

*grunch*

If we are behind we have 4,09 outs.

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4,10...you forgot to include the 15 of pie.
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Old 12-07-2005, 02:14 PM
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Default Re: Counting outs test

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Something to ponder. Won't take you long but you should definitely grunch.

How many outs?
Hero has red JJ.

Board.
KQ3r.

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Not many. Backdoor straight draw. And any J would have to be discounted because it could make a straight for someone else.
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Old 12-07-2005, 02:21 PM
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Default Re: Counting outs test

if we're behind we have two outs. our J makes a straight, but we also have a backdoor straight. a 3-card straight is worth 1.5 outs, but ours is different as its JQK and not 789 or TJQ. we can only make two straights instead of three. so just make it easy and say we're discounting our jacks by negating our own backdoor straight draw.

2, final answer.
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Old 12-07-2005, 02:30 PM
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*grunch*

2 jacks, discounted because a J completes some straight draws, call it 1.5

BDSD also good for about 1.5

I'd call it 3.

Edited because "all red" isn't a straight, [censored].
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