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Old 12-08-2005, 04:31 PM
duk duk is offline
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Default 2 pair turn mistake?

Opponent seems relatively solid; moderately tight, hasn't gotten out of line in the couple of orbits I've been here.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, CO raises, 2 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero raises, CO calls.

Turn: (4.25 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, CO raises, Hero 3-bets, CO folds.

Final Pot: 9.25 BB

After the hand I thought perhaps I should have called the turn raise and led out on the river, but perhaps this is too results-oriented.
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Old 12-08-2005, 05:28 PM
jph0424 jph0424 is offline
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Default Re: 2 pair turn mistake?

You played this fine. There are now 2 flush draws on the board not to mention he could hit his kicker if he also has an A or make his trips, set, or straight if not. You can not be upset at this result. The pot is already big, take it down.
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Old 12-08-2005, 05:44 PM
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Default Re: 2 pair turn mistake?

I don't get why you want to call the turn and lead the river. This is fine.
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Old 12-08-2005, 05:54 PM
luckyharr luckyharr is offline
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Default Re: 2 pair turn mistake?

Looks like he was on a pure bluff or free showdown play so I don't think you were getting another bet out of him regardless of your line.
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Old 12-08-2005, 05:56 PM
Danenania Danenania is offline
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Default Re: 2 pair turn mistake?

I often check/call flop then lead turn. This is fine too.
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Old 12-08-2005, 05:57 PM
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Default Re: 2 pair turn mistake?

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I often check/call flop then lead turn. This is fine too.

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This is because you expect him to raise your turn bet often enough? Or is it because you think he will call down with a worse hand that he may have folded otherwise?
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Old 12-08-2005, 05:59 PM
Danenania Danenania is offline
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Default Re: 2 pair turn mistake?

Both. It also provokes weird free showdown raises and bluff raises.
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Old 12-08-2005, 06:02 PM
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Default Re: 2 pair turn mistake?

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Both. It also provokes weird free showdown raises and bluff raises.

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So is this line of yours pretty standard for you when you flop a pretty strong hand on a midly coordinated flop OOP in an unraised pot?
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Old 12-08-2005, 06:09 PM
Danenania Danenania is offline
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Default Re: 2 pair turn mistake?

Not really. I tend to save it for when I flop two pair with an Ace. And actually the less coordinated the flop, the better the play is.

Btw, this isn't an unraised pot.
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Old 12-08-2005, 06:17 PM
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Default Re: 2 pair turn mistake?

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Btw, this isn't an unraised pot.

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Oops. I just scrolled up to check if it was or not while I was responding, and I didn't see any color. Damn converter reliance.
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