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Old 12-07-2005, 12:43 PM
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Villain looks TAGgish. (27/15/2.2 after 630 hands)

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Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, CO calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.25 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero

Does anyone 3-bet or lay down on the flop? If not.....
Is this a standard fold or standard calldown for you guys?
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Old 12-07-2005, 12:44 PM
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for me it's a standard calldown...
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Old 12-07-2005, 12:52 PM
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Default Re: Common Situation / Simple Question

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for me it's a standard calldown...

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Old 12-07-2005, 06:49 PM
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Default Re: Common Situation / Simple Questions

I don't like calling down on a K35r board against a TAGish player. You're getting ~3-1 to call down effectively (from the flop raise), and I don't think he's bluffing 25% of the time.
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Old 12-07-2005, 06:55 PM
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Default Re: Common Situation / Simple Questions

call down unless you have a very good read on the player. i see other tags try to push me off hands all the time. im sure they look at your stats and think, oh heres a tight 2+2er i can put a move on. idiots.
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Old 12-07-2005, 07:06 PM
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Call down. If you were in villain's shoes on that flop and had 88, wouldn't you raise? Since he'd play the middle pairs and decent kings the same, call down seems like the best play. As Victor said he could just be trying to push you off a hand, too.
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Old 12-07-2005, 07:15 PM
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call down unless you have a very good read on the player.

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I agree. Calling down is the unexploitable strategy. If your read on villain removes hands like 66, 77, AQ from his range of flop value raises (which would constitute a very good read) then I may be ok with a laydown strategy.
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Old 12-07-2005, 07:20 PM
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Call down, if not for the meta game.
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