How's My Line

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This is an ongoing topic of debate that I've seen across many boards, and it seems that the core of the argument is if Villain will raise with a worse hand, or if he will just charge you 2 bets when you're drawing and call when you're ahead. A good recent discussion can be found here in MHSH.

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I haven't read the discussion you refer to, but I think whether you lead into a PFR depends on the size of the pot. I usually don't like it, because you are usually only getting raised by a better hand (when we are talking about a field of 3 or 4) and charging yourself to draw, like you say. But when the pot gets large enough, and you are in a field of 3+, if you know the PFR will only raise with an overpair, it becomes beneficial to bet into him. First, there is always the chance that the PFR still has overs and won't bet, possibly costing you a free card. Secondly, and I think more importantly, pushing out the other people in a large pot becomes more important because it will increase your equity a fair amount since you are increasing your chances of winning if you improve.

I think with a flop like this, leading into the PFRer is even better because there is still a fair amount of hands the PF 3-bettor will raise with that you beat, AK maybe, AKs-AJs, KQs, KJs, KQo. So that coupled with trying to push the other player out makes it a good flop bet.

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First, there is always the chance that the PFR still has overs and won't bet, possibly costing you a free card.

[/ QUOTE ] I doubt this will happen. He 3-bet PF. Unless you have a read, it's nearly always autobet on the flop.

I pretty much agree w/ everything else u said.

[Redeye]

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I doubt this will happen. He 3-bet PF. Unless you have a read, it's nearly always autobet on the flop

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In a situation like this, you are probably right. However, if the pot is 4-5 handed, I think there is a larger chance of a check if the player is a decent TAG.