Flopped trips and got checkraised on flop...what's your line

[SossMan]

duh...this makes it even better, then.

If I flatcall and the guy behind me calls, then I'm flat calling the turn again in hopes that I can get the overcall. Hopefully, I could then simply call/push all in on the river.
If I don't get the flop overcall, then I'm minraising the turn if bet into, and checking behind if a big card comes and he checks.
I'll go ahead and push if a semi-scare card (5,6,7) and he bets out. I'll make a pot sized bet if a scare card comes and he checks.

[poolshark]

I agree with what has been said so far. I would like to ask a hypothetical question though. What happens if after you have flat called his raise, an 8 hits the turn and he checks to you - what's your line then?

[adanthar]

Bet 1/2 the pot as the last chips you're putting in the hand.

[SossMan]

if he checks to me, I'm making a turn continuation bet of about 1/2 the pot. If he calls, I'm darn near done with the hand.

[SossMan]

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Bet 1/2 the pot as the last chips you're putting in the hand.

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nice play, sir.

[Pat Southern]

Do you fold to a river push from him, considering you only will have around 1000 chips left?

[woodguy]

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But on the turn, you shouldn't be pushing. I want to either check behind or try to underbet to get him to CR...probably check. I'll take the chance of exactly two spades in exchange for him bluffing the river. (If he has trips hitting his kicker doesn't matter as the chips are going in anyway.)


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That makes a lot of sense.

I'm probably only getting called by 88, maybe 99-TT.

I wasn't afraid of another spade, my thinking was that the pot was 2100 and I had 1795 left behind, any reasonable bet would be the rest of my stack, and the pot is big enough now that I don't mind taking it down.

He was probably drawing to 2 outs, so I can afford to give the card, I've just been really gunshy on that play of late as I've made "the worst mistake in poker" a few times lately and let my opponent draw out on me for free when they were drawing thin.

That being said, I have him on a pair and not 2 spades, I should have checked through the turn or make a wounded duck bet of 700 or so, hoping he smells weakness and comes overtop.

As an aside, if you have an opponent on a hand and you are comfortable with your read, what is the maximum amount of outs you let see the next card for free?

This is probably a function of the size of the pot and how much you have left behind, and of course your opponent, but I'm interested in the responses.

So this question is really simplistic, but here it is:

If my opponent has X outs to beat me, I will let the next card come for free.

What is the maximum value of X?

Assume typical opponent who has shown aggression in the hand so is better than 50% to bet the next card.

How much does your stack size influence your decision?

Regards,
Woodguy

[adanthar]

A gutshot or less (if I think 2 pair and I can beat it I'm betting.)

[jackdaniels]

I may be in the minority here, but if there is a good chance they will bluff off their chips on a miss, I would let a SINGLE opponent draw to as many as 9 outs (flush draw). Again, I would only do this if I was fairly sure they would bluff off their chips (I'd have to be in position) and it would have to be against no more than a single opponent, and have some outs if they hit (say I had a set). Ofcourse, this is more often the case when the pot is small and we both have lots of chips. If they have a small stack/the pot is large - no free cards; let them make that desparation decision for the rest of their chips right there and then. I also wouldn't want to modify my play too much with premium holdings, as I wouldn't be in a position to do the same when my holdings weren't as premium and I had to protect my hand.

[MLG]

I agree completely. Good reads and position make free cards much less dangerous.