I got berated at the table for this......

[PokerBob]

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like it says in sshe, a weak preflop play can be made up for by strongf postflop play. I like how you played it. actually, I'm kinda surprised you played this PF since I think your one of the tighter players on this board. cool

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I am trying to change my ways

[KDawgCometh]

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like it says in sshe, a weak preflop play can be made up for by strongf postflop play. I like how you played it. actually, I'm kinda surprised you played this PF since I think your one of the tighter players on this board. cool

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I am trying to change my ways

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lol

[CallMeIshmael]

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ok, so if you knew this guy was a total rock and would only 3-bet like this with a straight or a set, you'd still cap?

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If he SHOWED me the straight, I'd still cap.

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You're exagerating, right?

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no.

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I just reread the hand.

I thought it was heads up when you capped.

Still, 3 way, the cap is probably close to neutral ev or slightly -EV. (you are getting 2-1 on your money, and 1.9-1 to come in... but that assumes you win 100% of the time you hit a flush)

[brazilio]

Then cap and take your possible free turn. I think calling the 3-bet is by far the worst option, either check/call the flop because people aren't going to have much incentive to stay in, or cap it when it gets 3-bet and he's got position.

[CallMeIshmael]

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Then cap and take your free turn.

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not going to happen.

[brazilio]

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Then cap and take your free turn.

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not going to happen.

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It should if he's got an overpair.

[CallMeIshmael]

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It should if he's got an overpair.

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PBob and I are discussing when we know he has a straight 100% of the time he 3-bets.

I say the cap is very close to neutral EV or slightly -EV in that spot.

[brazilio]

o sry

[evilganz]

Easy cap, with a favorite to improve to 2 pair or better. Sure, sometimes they have a bigger flush draw, but so what? You're ahead of aces! And if someone has a set, there's less risk than usual of the board pairing to make both your hands (since the 7D is already spoken for), which removes one of your disaster scenarios.

If you're not capping this, you're either playing scared, or need to bone up on your odds.

[Harv72b]

If anyone even considers not capping the flop 3-handed with TP+flush draw, they need to reevaluate their choice of hobbies. Just my opinion, but hey...

Re: preflop call. I play fairly loose preflop, especially from LP, but this is a hand I would fold unless I was up against some very bad opponents. From the button I might/maybe limp it behind 2 limpers, but I don't really like it from the CO. I'm just not a big fan of suited 3-gappers, especially when the top card is only a jack. I don't think it's a terrible limp, and the postflop play certainly justifies limping a borderline hand from LP, but it's not a call I'd usually make.