JJ: Playing with an overcard on BOARD

flopmonster · #1 11-03-2005, 10:56 AM

CO looks tight after 20 hands
UTG was just loose and his cap to me just said, "WHY NOT?"

I am pretty sure I F'd this one up.. thanks for comments

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, 2 folds, CO 3-bets, 3 folds, UTG caps, Hero calls, CO calls.

Flop: (13.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, CO raises, UTG calls, Hero folds.

toss · #2 11-03-2005, 10:58 AM

Good fold.

@bsolute_luck · #3 11-03-2005, 11:05 AM

once UTG calls i think it is dangerous and you have a tight read CO, so i don't think the fold was horrible unless you think CO would iso you with TT/99.

when i looked at this hand i thought: 3-bet and fold to a cap, but i don't know if that's right. or donk a non-A/K/T/9 turn and fold to a raise from CO.

pokerjunky · #4 11-03-2005, 11:26 AM

Given your read on CO this looks like a good fold. Given the preflop action + flop raise I'm putting him on QQ, KK, or AA a vast majority of the time. He could be raising TT but I doubt it, and you still have to worry about UTG.

#5 11-03-2005, 11:28 AM

I don't think its a bad idea to call and donk the turn/fold to a raise. That was my initial reaction to this hand.

crunchy1 · #6 11-03-2005, 11:35 AM

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I don't think its a bad idea to call and donk the turn/fold to a raise. That was my initial reaction to this hand.

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= spewing an extra 1.5BBs.

CO is tight and 3-bet PF. His range is pretty small and well defined. He didn't have the chance to cap PF and is now continuing his PF aggression on the flop. Putting in any more bets after the initial flop bet is just hating money.

#7 11-03-2005, 11:37 AM

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I don't think its a bad idea to call and donk the turn/fold to a raise. That was my initial reaction to this hand.

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= spewing an extra 1.5BBs.

CO is tight and 3-bet PF. His range is pretty small and well defined. He didn't have the chance to cap PF and is now continuing his PF aggression on the flop. Putting in any more bets after the initial flop bet is just hating money.

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"Looks tight after 20 hands" doesn't = rock.

#8 11-03-2005, 11:39 AM

Good fold

1) no draw on the board
2) an overcall

I think you have 2 outs at best.

LLL

@bsolute_luck · #9 11-03-2005, 11:42 AM

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I don't think its a bad idea to call and donk the turn/fold to a raise. That was my initial reaction to this hand.

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= spewing an extra 1.5BBs.

CO is tight and 3-bet PF. His range is pretty small and well defined. He didn't have the chance to cap PF and is now continuing his PF aggression on the flop. Putting in any more bets after the initial flop bet is just hating money.

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hahah i'm sorry i just have to laugh at your postings about spewing after reading K4o and 82s

#10 11-03-2005, 12:01 PM

I think you played this the best you could. Given UTG's call/cap play on the flop I wouldn't be surprised if he was after a check raise on the flop. So good fold on the turn. If UTG wasn't there I'd be tempted to call the flop.

I guess checking the flop would of been too weak but given you had a preflop raiser to come and someone who likes to make too many plays after him I'd of been tempted to see what happened and fold to any raise by UTG. Probably too weak as I say.