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Old 11-21-2005, 07:56 PM
incognito incognito is offline
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Default Broadway on turn, flush on board

$3/$6 online, 10 handed

Folded to me in middle position, I raise with A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

Folded to the blind, who three-bets, the blinds call (yes, it's that kind of game) and I call.

The flop comes Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].

SB bets, BB calls, I call getting 14:1 with my gutshot and backdoor nut flush draw, button calls.

The turn comes K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].

SB checks, BB bets, do I raise now or go for overcalls?

My read on the blinds is that they're loose, but not overly agressive. The button is solid.
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Old 11-21-2005, 08:03 PM
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Default Re: Broadway on turn, flush on board

I think going for overcalls might be a good decision here. If someone has the flush already you don't get 3 bet and you now have the nutflush draw.
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Old 11-21-2005, 08:35 PM
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Default Re: Broadway on turn, flush on board

I like going for overcalls here. I'm a lot more interested in how everyone plays if a total blank comes on the river and BB leads again.
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Old 11-21-2005, 08:48 PM
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Default Re: Broadway on turn, flush on board

Against unknown opponents, I would definitely just call. But the two blinds called 2.5 and 2 bets cold before the flop. Does the fact that they're so loose affect your thinking at all?
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Old 11-21-2005, 09:10 PM
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Default Re: Broadway on turn, flush on board

I'd raise now. It's unlikely anyone has a flush but it is possible they have a set, twopair, the same str8 you're freerolling on, or a smaller straight. It's unlikely they'll fold any of those hands. Raise it up.
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Old 11-21-2005, 09:25 PM
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Default Re: Broadway on turn, flush on board

Raise it up. What I think is important to note is that since button put in 3-bets preflop his hand range is narrow enough that given this board he either really likes his or really hates his hand. Thus, he will either be calling both 1 or 2 bets from you regardless or will be folding for 1 or 2 bets. So basically picking up overcalls is less valuable in this situation as this guy will overcall 2 cold enough of the time.
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Old 11-21-2005, 09:36 PM
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Default Re: Broadway on turn, flush on board

I lean towards raising here. I don't see myself getting 3bet by better hands that often either.
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Old 11-21-2005, 09:38 PM
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What about raising and making that guy with the T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] really pay you?
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