Hand Reading, PP style

MLG · #1 09-06-2005, 10:32 PM

Ok, here we go. Party Super Tuesday
UTG minraises to 60 and 4 people call. I call in the BB with 2410.
The flop is J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. It checks around. Turn is Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. The blinds check and UTG bets 150 into the 360 pot. All fold to me, I call. The river is 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. I check, UTG bets 300 leaving himself with about 1k. I push.

So, put UTG on a range, put me on a range, and what hands should UTG call with.

Annulus · #2 09-06-2005, 10:43 PM

ill make my guess on hands. he has QJ and you have A suited with a middle kicker.

Annulus · #3 09-06-2005, 10:44 PM

he did not put you on the straight.

MLG · #4 09-06-2005, 10:44 PM

why? That's the important part. Anbody can generate two hands, its the thought process that makes you better.

Annulus · #5 09-06-2005, 10:53 PM

true. im not very good at the math behind hand ranges. but from the tone in your post, i feel he donked you. So, then I could see a donk raising QJ suited UTG. Flopped middle pair, he wakes up on turn with 2 pair and he plays them like the nuts.

Im guessing you were trying to steal the pot on the river when the scare card falls. he calls with 2 pair.

MLG · #6 09-06-2005, 10:57 PM

here's the thing. trying to guess the hands by the tone of my post is sort of pointless to improving your poker game.

I'll get you started with this. Why would I never check raise all-in with just an A here?

Annulus · #7 09-06-2005, 11:10 PM

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here's the thing. trying to guess the hands by the tone of my post is sort of pointless to improving your poker game.

I'll get you started with this. Why would I never check raise all-in with just an A here?

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thanks for being pateint with me. because you will only get called by a hand that beats you.

Che · #8 09-06-2005, 10:44 PM

MLG: 82% Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] or A7 of any flavor (most likely), 15% bluff (most likely missed flush draw), 3% 77

UTG: Range is very wide. Should call with any hand that beats 75. 75 is borderline call, but should not be in his (admittedly wide) range anyway, so irrelevant.

Later,
Che

Che · #9 09-06-2005, 10:47 PM

KT with flush draw on turn. Include that in the 2-pair group (it really doesn't change much since KTs of either of the two relevant suits is very unlikely).

#10 09-06-2005, 10:49 PM

Ok I don't think anyone has AA JJ AJ Ax because your not checking any of these in a four way pot with the flush draw on board. Your opponent could easily have QQ but minimum preflop raise makes this unlikely. So KQ QJ are possibilities. you could have 77 or the obvious straight with K 10. You'd have to be brave to call with less than the str8. My two cents for what they're worth.