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Old 12-27-2005, 12:57 AM
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The river concerned me. I 3bet PF and now he's capping the turn with 3 Ts showing. What's the best way to go from here?


Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP1 calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 calls.

Turn: (4.25 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 caps</font>, Hero calls.

River: (12.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero ?

Villain is 22/7/1.2 9K hands
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Old 12-27-2005, 01:00 AM
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Default Re: Has he got quads?

cap it until your fingers bleed.
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Old 12-27-2005, 01:10 AM
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He is more likely to have AA or QQ or even 88 than to have slow played his trips on flop.
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Old 12-27-2005, 01:14 AM
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Any stats on the guy? The only 10 hand I can see someone raise that early in full ring is A10s or 1010 (impossible).

I say cap it and tip your hat if he has the quads. Its more likly he doesnt and you don't want to lose value.
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Old 12-27-2005, 01:18 AM
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Default Re: Has he got quads?

grunch:

In absence of a read Ill assume a reasonable player.

I bet that river and call a raise.

Based on action the only hand that i am worried about here is A10s and maybe A10os but that would be MUBS. We beat everthing else in his range raise but not capping preflop.

nh

Edit: can I change my answer....cap it.....just calling a raise would be MUBS wouldnt it? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] Seriously though, I might start giving just a little credit to a really passive player after a river raise but cap anyways and bust his 8s.
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Old 12-27-2005, 02:02 AM
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I'd cap the river. Raising in MP, I can see him on a variety of high pairs, including AA and QQ. Once it's heads-up PF, maybe he slowed down to trap. By the turn, he can figure he's got the best boat...and maybe he does at that point.

2nd nut...if you're on the short end, oh well...
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Old 12-27-2005, 07:28 AM
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I cap this one, if he got quads, im paying him off but I except the chips to go to me.
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Old 12-27-2005, 07:37 AM
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I bet/call.

And I don't think it's MUBs.
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Old 12-27-2005, 09:35 AM
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If his range is AT, AA, QQ he's actually more likely not to have AT.

6 ways to have AA.
6 ways to have QQ.
4 ways to have AT.

You are ahead 5/8 times. Cap the river, he's gonna raise with any boat and he likes TTTAA too much to call.
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Old 12-27-2005, 11:16 AM
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Default Re: Has he got quads?

Here is a similar hand I had a few days ago.

I think my action on the river should be a strong indication of your action.


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Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. UTG+2 posts a blind of $1. MP2 posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 (poster) calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (15 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls.

Turn: (9.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 calls, CO calls, BB calls.

River: (13.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, CO folds, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 caps</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 21.50 BB
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