15, straight out of HPFAP?, 3 way, for overcall

[CardSharpCook]

that's fair. With 10BBs in the pot, villian need 4outs to correctly fall. Considering that he has 3-4 outs to a split pot, a raise here is best (fold to a 3bet). However, I'm sure as hell checking behind on the river. My line is still fold the turn, but second best is raise the turn, check the river.

[DpR]

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that's fair. With 10BBs in the pot, villian need 4outs to correctly fall. Considering that he has 3-4 outs to a split pot, a raise here is best (fold to a 3bet). However, I'm sure as hell checking behind on the river. My line is still fold the turn, but second best is raise the turn, check the river.

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If you raise the turn, are not 3 bet, and it is HU, I think you have a value bet on this river .

[lil feller]

I think I missed the 10bb in the pot already. Given the pot is already that big, I'm recinding my comments and agreeing w/ Wes. Provided, of course, that we'll only get 3bet if we're drawing dead to a split.

lf

[CardSharpCook]

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If you raise the turn, are not 3 bet, and it is HU, I think you have a value bet on this river .

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Says who? A raise here says, "I have a 9!!!" and shuts down all other hands that are very likely here. Two pair and trips revert into call down mode. JJ/AT do the same.

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If you raise the turn, are not 3 bet, and it is HU, I think you have a value bet on this river .

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Says who? A raise here says, "I have a 9!!!" and shuts down all other hands that are very likely here. Two pair and trips revert into call down mode. JJ/AT do the same.

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I agree with this statement, if the hero raises the turn, this should usually be his final investment in the hand.