For those who think internet poker is going to burst

[Uglyowl]

I say bs. My thought has always been there is now a relatively small percentage of people who trust the internet. The internet is relatively new and as younger people who grow up with it become of age they will fuel the boom.

I know it is not the point of the article, but nonetheless is happening...

http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-teen04.html

Teenage boys going all in for poker craze

September 4, 2005

BY LARRY MCSHANE Advertisement







NEW YORK -- Kevin figures about half of the male students at his suburban high school are regular poker players. It's the latest teen rite of passage: Texas Hold 'Em with the boys, a little low-budget action on the weekend.

He started playing at age 15.

By the end of his senior year, the now 17-year-old was hunting bigger games. He frequented illegal poker clubs on Long Island. He dropped $2,000 betting during a family vacation in the Caribbean. When his job managing an ice cream shop conflicted with poker nights, he quit.

As his losses inevitably swelled, Kevin started looting a $30,000 college fund set up by his parents. ''I didn't care if I won or lost,'' said Kevin, who went through $7,000 in three months. ''I just wanted to gamble.''

He wasn't alone. This summer, while school was out, a growing number of America's teens were going all in as the nation's poker craze mesmerized a group that grew larger and younger.

Experts fear the obsession is putting America's youth at its highest risk ever for compulsive betting -- and worry that assistance programs are lagging.

''I get calls from parents and kids, some as young as 14, every day,'' said counselor Arnie Wexler, former head of the New Jersey Council on Compulsive Gambling. ''This thing has exploded. I've never seen anything explode like this has in the last year.''

Spreading to middle schools



Poker, particularly the incredibly popular Texas Hold 'Em version played in the $56 million World Series of Poker, stands alongside hip-hop and video games as pillars of America's youth culture. And as schools reopen, the pool of potential underaged gamblers is spreading from the upper grades into the middle schools.

According to a study by the Louisiana State University Health Sciences Center, 15.9 percent of in-state students between the sixth and 12th grades admit to gambling-related woes or signs of addiction. Four percent report they were already stealing money from relatives to gamble.

A national survey showed a huge increase in card-playing among males ages 14 to 22, with the number of youths reporting they gambled in card games at least once a week jumping from 6.2 percent in 2003 to 11.4 percent last year -- an increase of 84 percent. The vast majority of poker players are males.

'5% will become addicted'



There are no definitive statistics on the number of teenagers battling compulsive gambling problems nationwide. But Ed Looney, who followed Wexler as head of the New Jersey council, cites the 80-15-5 rule.

''Eighty percent of the kids who gamble, there will be no impact on their lives,'' Looney said. ''Fifteen percent will have some problem. And 5 percent will become addicted.''

Many teens pick up the game from television, with its endless permutations of professional gamblers and celebrity wannabes, with its explanations of intricacies of the seven-card game.

But there's more than television at work here. Online gambling is just a mouse click away, accessible 24 hours every day, 365 days a year. A Google search of play and Texas Hold 'Em turned up more than 2 million results.

On Long Island, there are now two Gamblers Anonymous meetings devoted exclusively to teens. Kevin, who started attending after his angry parents discovered the depleted tuition fund, is a regular.

''That was a big thing for me, to realize I was not alone,'' said the teen, who will start college this fall -- and start paying his parents back the missing cash.

Teenage boys going all in for poker craze

September 4, 2005

BY LARRY MCSHANE

NEW YORK -- Kevin figures about half of the male students at his suburban high school are regular poker players. It's the latest teen rite of passage: Texas Hold 'Em with the boys, a little low-budget action on the weekend.

He started playing at age 15.

By the end of his senior year, the now 17-year-old was hunting bigger games. He frequented illegal poker clubs on Long Island. He dropped $2,000 betting during a family vacation in the Caribbean. When his job managing an ice cream shop conflicted with poker nights, he quit.

As his losses inevitably swelled, Kevin started looting a $30,000 college fund set up by his parents. ''I didn't care if I won or lost,'' said Kevin, who went through $7,000 in three months. ''I just wanted to gamble.''

He wasn't alone. This summer, while school was out, a growing number of America's teens were going all in as the nation's poker craze mesmerized a group that grew larger and younger.

Experts fear the obsession is putting America's youth at its highest risk ever for compulsive betting -- and worry that assistance programs are lagging.

''I get calls from parents and kids, some as young as 14, every day,'' said counselor Arnie Wexler, former head of the New Jersey Council on Compulsive Gambling. ''This thing has exploded. I've never seen anything explode like this has in the last year.''

Spreading to middle schools



Poker, particularly the incredibly popular Texas Hold 'Em version played in the $56 million World Series of Poker, stands alongside hip-hop and video games as pillars of America's youth culture. And as schools reopen, the pool of potential underaged gamblers is spreading from the upper grades into the middle schools.

According to a study by the Louisiana State University Health Sciences Center, 15.9 percent of in-state students between the sixth and 12th grades admit to gambling-related woes or signs of addiction. Four percent report they were already stealing money from relatives to gamble.

A national survey showed a huge increase in card-playing among males ages 14 to 22, with the number of youths reporting they gambled in card games at least once a week jumping from 6.2 percent in 2003 to 11.4 percent last year -- an increase of 84 percent. The vast majority of poker players are males.

'5% will become addicted'



There are no definitive statistics on the number of teenagers battling compulsive gambling problems nationwide. But Ed Looney, who followed Wexler as head of the New Jersey council, cites the 80-15-5 rule.

''Eighty percent of the kids who gamble, there will be no impact on their lives,'' Looney said. ''Fifteen percent will have some problem. And 5 percent will become addicted.''

Many teens pick up the game from television, with its endless permutations of professional gamblers and celebrity wannabes, with its explanations of intricacies of the seven-card game.

But there's more than television at work here. Online gambling is just a mouse click away, accessible 24 hours every day, 365 days a year. A Google search of play and Texas Hold 'Em turned up more than 2 million results.

On Long Island, there are now two Gamblers Anonymous meetings devoted exclusively to teens. Kevin, who started attending after his angry parents discovered the depleted tuition fund, is a regular.

''That was a big thing for me, to realize I was not alone,'' said the teen, who will start college this fall -- and start paying his parents back the missing cash.

thanks for the post....

[Keith Fellmy]

How come every article that comes out in a non poker/gambling publication is always bad news. For once I would like a newspaper article to talk to guys/gals that are living a nice life off of online poker/gambling. All we read about is how Little Ricky lost all his money while he was underage and gambling. Ick. Makes me sick. I make a nice living off of poker. Yes I have down days but once I lose a certain amount then I am done for the day. I see these guys with addictive personalities. Playing pool one time we would draw peas out of the bottle for 5 bucks a pull. High pea won the pot. This guy would keep on losing and eventually he lost all his money to me. Something that should have been fun while waiting for your next match, turned into a bankrupt session for one player.

Conspiracy Theorists...try his one: All the casinos are in "cahoots" to keep articles like this one in the paper, but they never want to see an article on how someone went into their casino and lost their house, car, life or whatever. To this day I have never seen one article on someone that went into a casino and lost their entire life savings...there had to be someone that lost all their money...i mean look at those nice casinos. They were built on winners? I don't think so.

Anyway I am starting to ramble on here.

[lefty rosen]

Actually I have read one on Cecil Fielder.......... [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

[MicroBob]

[ QUOTE ]

How come every article that comes out in a non poker/gambling publication is always bad news. For once I would like a newspaper article to talk to guys/gals that are living a nice life off of online poker/gambling.

[/ QUOTE ]


I've seen so many articles about internet-pros who are doing well it's not even funny.

I've also seen mostly 'neutral' articles that just go on and on about the popularity of online-poker (and how much the sites are making) that make virtually no reference to kids or adults becoming addicted OR the fact that it is in a legal grey-area.

[bobbyi]

[ QUOTE ]
How come every article that comes out in a non poker/gambling publication is always bad news. For once I would like a newspaper article to talk to guys/gals that are living a nice life off of online poker/gambling.

[/ QUOTE ]
Welcome to the real world. There are many, many, many more people who lose money gambling than who are "living a nice life off" it.

[ QUOTE ]
All we read about is how Little Ricky lost all his money while he was underage and gambling.

[/ QUOTE ]
This stuff is really happening. Should newspapers all refuse to report on it? Should we work together to suppress anyone finding out about the fact that some people lose money gambling since it might hurt our bottom line?

[ QUOTE ]
All the casinos are in "cahoots" to keep articles like this one in the paper

[/ QUOTE ]
These articles are bad for b&m casinos even though they are about online casinos. Reinforcing the idea that gambling is addictive and destructive is not what casinos want, regardless of where they are located. They want gambling to be associated with harmless fun.

[ QUOTE ]
I make a nice living off of poker.

[/ QUOTE ]

That's because all the teenage fishes who are addicted are helping you live the life [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[solucky]

Guess this article is from the LOBBY that never will allow Online-gambling...............in fact such articles are poor for our "sport"

[jzpiano14]

Nice post, always good to hear what non card players are saying about us

[einbert]

[ QUOTE ]
As his losses inevitably swelled, Kevin started looting a $30,000 college fund set up by his parents. ''I didn't care if I won or lost,'' said Kevin, who went through $7,000 in three months. ''I just wanted to gamble.''

[/ QUOTE ]

Awesome.

Thanks Kevin, you're the reason I don't have to worry about money for at least the next several years! I owe you one buddy :-D.