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Attitudes Around Here
What the heck has happened around here?
There used to be a time when new posters were welcomed. Their first few posts would show that they had a lot to learn and the more experienced posters would point that out to them. Some of them would be blunter in their “help” than others but nonetheless they would be helpful. In one of my first posts three years ago, Dynasty called me a fish. He did, however, explain exactly why I was fish. But I learned a little, most of the new posters also learned; some of them have even become great players and currently are given a lot of respect around here. Did some of Tx early posts show that he had a lot to learn? Did he try to justify and argue his positions despite the replies from said esteemed posters? To both of those questions the answer is yes. But has he tried to learn? Did he publicly admit that he was wrong in his first posts? Is he trying to get better and is looking for help? The answers to all of those are yes as well. But since he is not an “expert” some of the “experts” here continue to berate him and act as though he is beneath them and not worthy of help. Cut the guy some slack. I’m only mediocre, but I’m going to try to help him out as best I can. You folks should too. Maybe everybody has decided to emulate the “El Diablo” style of post. However, if you look at his cutting one liners, they are usually directed to a poster that he thinks should know better. When the next new poster shows up, cut out the condescending attitude. Perhaps it will help if you look at the first few of your own posts and remember how far you have come. |
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well said.
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Negative responses, condescension, and hostility from some posters regarding my bad posts and advice have helped my game.
If a solid poster denigrates, thank him for the help. You'll be "richer" for it. |
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They can disagree with you and discuss it. But if they are denegrating itto boost there own ego. Sure its probably better than no advice if you not thin skinned. But there is no reason for the denegration excpet to make themself feel like a big man. they can disagree without acting like an azz.
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Good post.
-Michael |
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Good post. -Michael [/ QUOTE ] you said you quit liar |
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nicely said.
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It bothers me when people respond like that and I've chided El Diablo about it more than once.
That said, what deserves these obnoxious responses is not when new posters post mistake-ridden hands. What deserves these responses is that the mistakes are so often corrected and then the OP will argue as if he already knows everything, because he can't imagine he might be wrong. The attitude I came in with was "I have tons to learn and these people will help." So I'd take criticism and not think twice. I once posted an SS hand where I cold-called a raise with T9s, 3-bet the turn with a flushdraw and hit the river and checked cause the board paired. slavic responded with a "misplayed on every street" and others' responses ranged from "awful" to "fold every street." The prevailing attitude among new posters now seems to be "Look how well I play and still lose, someone just tell me I'm unlucky or that it's rigged." |
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what deserves these obnoxious responses is not when new posters post mistake-ridden hands. What deserves these responses is that the mistakes are so often corrected and then the OP will argue as if he already knows everything, because he can't imagine he might be wrong. [/ QUOTE ] i remember my first posts. some were stupid, but i always took comments and criticism constructively. i definately sucked when i started, and argued my point but would immediately accept a point when proven wrong. i have nothing against that and treat all new posters who come in like that (lestat) well. Barron |
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It is funny though. Every new person is another competator. Do we really want to encourage more people to join the forums? The answer, of course, is no. We'd much prefer if our small group of players were the only ones with access to this forum. We want our "tribe" to do well, and we realize that this is at the expense of the world. So, when the natural response is to reject any newcomers, but we were taught in kindergarten to share and to help others. Those two forces battle within us. The individual new poster can help either side of our humanity by their approach to us. If a new poster comes off as abrasive, a know-it-all, etc etc then he helps his own rejection. If a poster flatters us, comes to us humbly, and expresses a desire (and capability) to learn then he speeds his acceptance.
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