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Old 02-09-2005, 01:40 AM
bigredlemon bigredlemon is offline
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Default Did I play this too fast?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (10.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, MP2 calls, CO calls, Hero calls.

River: (18.25 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, MP2 folds, CO calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 24.25 BB
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Old 02-09-2005, 01:43 AM
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Default Re: Did I play this too fast?

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Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (10.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, MP2 calls, CO calls, Hero calls.

River: (18.25 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, MP2 folds, CO calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 24.25 BB

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Nope, and I probably wouldve 3 bet the river. But that may be the lag in me talking now.
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Old 02-09-2005, 01:46 AM
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Default Re: Did I play this too fast?

Preflop I am not too sure about. Probably fine in most circumstances. Flop is very good. Turn could possibly be three-bet with 3 opponents, but I think a call is my line. I probably would have 3-bet the river. With no read of "absurdly loose aggro" I can't put him on a str8. The only hand you're realistically looking at that beats you is JJ. I think AJ, KJs, or a slowplayed (on the flop) overpair. With two other players calling along, they are going to make up for the times when it is JJ. I really like a river 3-bet.
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Old 02-09-2005, 01:50 AM
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Default Re: Did I play this too fast?

If anything you played this hand like you were scared of the giant one-eyed monster under the bed... you missed a few bets - if villian has JJ then so be it.
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Old 02-09-2005, 01:56 AM
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Default Re: Did I play this too fast?

I would have 3 bet the river.
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Old 02-09-2005, 12:07 PM
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Default Re: Did I play this too fast?

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I would have 3 bet the river.

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Old 02-09-2005, 01:57 AM
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Default Re: Did I play this too fast?

I check/raise this river and call a 3-bet, with capping a close second. You didn't play this hand fast at all. You were, if anything, too passive, even if you lost the hand to JJ in the end.
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Old 02-09-2005, 02:06 AM
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Default Re: Did I play this too fast?

If I were to tell you that it was a fairly tight table (about 3 to a flop on average, including blinds) and the average pot is about 5xBB, does that change your answer? (This pot was about 450% larger)
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Old 02-09-2005, 02:21 AM
Niediam Niediam is offline
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Default Re: Did I play this too fast?

You could tell me that you had 10k hands on the villian and he only raises TT-AA and I'd still say you played the river too passively.
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Old 02-09-2005, 01:47 PM
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Default Re: Did I play this too fast?

On some level, isnt he just throwing bets away if he raises the river. In addition to JJ, I think you could consider him as having any set. Villains flop action seems like a slow play. The eight didn't represent a scare card, even as he was bet into for the second time. He raised. Isn't it common knowledge that a bluff raise two times should be taken as not a bluff but a made hand. I think it was played too quickly and while the 8 gave you trips, I am guessing it made him full. I would have called the turn, check/called the river. If you win, you only miss out on one BB. But perhaps I am too cautious. A BB saved is a BB won.
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