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Old 03-15-2005, 10:09 PM
Steve Giufre Steve Giufre is offline
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Default AK situation

I read a post in general forum a couple minutes ago that took me by surprise and got me thinking a little. Say you are in a fairly high limit online game and you have no reads.

One limper and you raise with AK, suits unimportant. Both blinds call, and the limper calls.

Flop: 2 5 10 rainbow.

Blinds check, limper bets. Whats your play, and if you do continue, whats your plan for the rest of the hand?
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Old 03-15-2005, 10:32 PM
Paluka Paluka is offline
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Default Re: AK situation

I think in a high limit game you just call. If you raise you will get 3 bet if the limper has a T, which is pretty likely here. I guess if you raise it might clean up your ace outs if one of the blinds hit their kickers, but this doesn't seem that likely.
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Old 03-16-2005, 01:16 AM
TStoneMBD TStoneMBD is offline
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Default Re: AK situation

i think that calling is fine, as long as you make a habit out of smooth calling the flop with large pairs, waiting for the turn. in passive games i raise here all the time, but high limit online games are usually very aggressive of course.
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Old 03-16-2005, 01:29 AM
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Default Re: AK situation

I agree, the bet seems to usually be an excuse to 3 bet b/c they know you will raise with whatver you missed with. I think you need to call, raise a good turna dn fold a bad one.
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Old 03-16-2005, 02:05 AM
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Default Re: AK situation

If you're using that logic, why not raise the flop, call the 3-bet and raise the turn with big pairs?
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Old 03-16-2005, 02:10 AM
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Default Re: AK situation

Can't speak to the internet, but at Commerce, I would say most often I call the flop, less often I raise, and less often I fold. If I had to estimate percentages, I'd say 42-33-25. When I play on, to steal a line from Tommy, my plan is to fold on either the turn or river.
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Old 03-16-2005, 02:59 AM
Chris Daddy Cool Chris Daddy Cool is offline
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Default Re: AK situation

calling-and-seeing is underrated, though i will often raise here, unless i know i'm likely to get 3-bet.
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Old 03-16-2005, 03:22 AM
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I'll often raise, as in high online limit games people will wait for the turn to check-raise top pair after they've seen you aren't giving up on the flop. Then you can take a free card, or bet if it is a player you believe to be posturing. I dunno, I feel like I'm getting three-bet on the flop less and less these days.
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Old 03-16-2005, 05:03 AM
theBruiser500 theBruiser500 is offline
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Default Re: AK situation

You've got 6 outs, 6/47 which is about 1/8 and pot is 9 SB, but given the fact that you could very easily be raised behind you (and possibly 3 bet back to you) that makes it 2 SB on the flop to 12, 6:1 when you are 7:1 to hit. Seems like a fold is fine here too if you sense a raise might be coming. Also you could be reverse dominated.
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Old 03-16-2005, 05:42 AM
Steve Giufre Steve Giufre is offline
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Can't speak to the internet, but at Commerce, I would say most often I call the flop, less often I raise, and less often I fold. If I had to estimate percentages, I'd say 42-33-25. When I play on, to steal a line from Tommy, my plan is to fold on either the turn or river.

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Me too.
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