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Old 06-19-2005, 10:33 PM
A_C_Slater A_C_Slater is offline
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Default Tens of thousands of hands and I\'m still lost with AQ UI/rag flop.

Opponents are loose and passive.


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Preflop: AC is UTG+1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">AC raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">AC bets</font>, MP2 calls, BB calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">AC bets</font>, MP2 calls, BB calls.

River: (7.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, AC checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, BB folds, AC folds.

Final Pot: 8.75 BB


Do you just shut down on the turn in these situations? The flop is still standard right?
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Old 06-19-2005, 10:41 PM
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Default Re: Tens of thousands of hands and I\'m still lost with AQ UI/rag flop.

I might call the river. Button might be bluffing a busted flush draw.

The rest is pretty standard.
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Old 06-19-2005, 10:46 PM
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Default Re: Tens of thousands of hands and I\'m still lost with AQ UI/rag flop.

id call the river.
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Old 06-19-2005, 10:59 PM
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Default Re: Tens of thousands of hands and I\'m still lost with AQ UI/rag flop.

Call the river?

Wow. I would never consider that. I posted this mostly to get input on the turn bet. I need more consenus on this, should I really be calling the river after a loose passive bet with Ace high?
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Old 06-19-2005, 11:01 PM
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Default Re: Tens of thousands of hands and I\'m still lost with AQ UI/rag flop.

If I had no read on the player I'd call the river. Turn bet is standard IMO.

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Old 06-19-2005, 11:01 PM
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Default Re: Tens of thousands of hands and I\'m still lost with AQ UI/rag flop.

Peeling on the flop and folding the turn is a very advanced play used often at 2/4.

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Old 06-19-2005, 11:04 PM
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Default Re: Tens of thousands of hands and I\'m still lost with AQ UI/rag flop.

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Peeling on the flop and folding the turn is a very advanced play used often at 2/4.

-SmileyEH

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^^This is sarcasm.

Right?

I've been running so bad that I'm losing my sense of humor and doubting everything so I have to ask.
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Old 06-19-2005, 11:04 PM
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Default Re: Tens of thousands of hands and I\'m still lost with AQ UI/rag flop.

Against one opponent, I bet the turn. Two opponents makes it read dependant on how to proceed. More people in the pot than that probably means you're not going to accomplish anything by betting.

I believe there is lots of money to be lost in over card situations like this. There is also a lot to be won. You really can't mess with the style on how to play them ...
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Old 06-19-2005, 11:05 PM
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Default Re: Tens of thousands of hands and I\'m still lost with AQ UI/rag flop.

Heh, I meant the players calling you on the flop will fold the turn often enough for a bet to be profitable - remember if you check you'll call a bet anyway.

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Old 06-19-2005, 11:09 PM
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Default Re: Tens of thousands of hands and I\'m still lost with AQ UI/rag flop.

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Heh, I meant the players calling you on the flop will fold the turn often enough for a bet to be profitable - remember if you check you'll call a bet anyway.

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If I did decide to check and MP2 bet and BB folded I certainly would not call. Maybe this is a leak, but I sometimes do it.

6 outs at 7 to 1 and getting 5.75 to call?
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