(55) QQ line

[ace_in_the_hole]

He has to have AA/KK here right? Does he make that preflop raise with AK/AQ then push on that flop? I felt bad about folding. Reassure me or help me fix a leak. Thanks.

NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:17620683 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Monday, November 21, 23:58:33 EDT 2005
Table Table 68900 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: netao ( $1010 )
Seat 2: vblifer ( $810 )
Seat 3: simonmaskil ( $850 )
Seat 4: PussiGobbler ( $1335 )
Seat 5: Scotty11065 ( $880 )
Seat 6: Matt_16 ( $1140 )
Seat 7: xavier76 ( $1000 )
Seat 8: XPitbull ( $985 )
Seat 9: HERO ( $890 )
Seat 10: deedee28111 ( $1100 )
Trny:17620683 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Qh Qd ]
XPitbull folds.
HERO raises [90].
deedee28111 folds.
netao folds.
vblifer folds.
simonmaskil folds.
PussiGobbler folds.
Scotty11065 folds.
Matt_16 raises [240].
xavier76 folds.
HERO calls [160].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5c, 4h, 2c ]
Matt_16 is all-In [890]

I think his range must be wider than AA/KK. It looks far more like AK to me.

[pokerponcho]

Maybe, maybe not. But I play the fifties also and I'll stick it in there almost every time. There are too many "AK losers" out there. Someone who will push with that hand no matter what.

[Hornacek]

If you're thinking he has AA/KK here, that's an awful lot to call preflop for set value. What was your thinking when you called preflop, and how did it change based on his flop bet?

I fold this, btw.

[Pokerscott]

One line of play to consider is to minraise pre flop. The theory is that AA and KK will never fail to re-reraise pre flop. Raise your QQ up to 390. If they push all-in over the top of that you can be much more confident of AA/KK there. Lots of hands push post flop.

Costs and extra 150 but if they call pre-flop you can be very confident playing the hand from then on imo.

Pokerscott

[Pete H]

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I think his range must be wider than AA/KK. It looks far more like AK to me.

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I agree. Post flop looks more like AK than AA/KK.

I'd call this flop, but I wouldn't be in that situation.

If you're going to fold when undercards flop, then you should fold preflop.

Without reads I'd probably push after that reraise.

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[Taraz]

I would never fold this without a serious read over several sngs. And why don't you push preflop? What flop action are you going to be content with? You'll get lots of lower pp and AK to call you.

You fold this preflop then?

Easy call on the flop for me but an even easier push preflop, but that's me.

[bigt439]

I call here.

Weird way for him to get value out of AA/KK, although he definitely has that a bunch.

Good point about pf. Why call if you're folding this. That's probably the weakest line he could've taken on the flop by the way (in that any other line shows more strength, except for check fold).

[ZeroPointMachine]

Do you always raise to 90t on level one? Do you think you play the hand differently if you raise 45t and his re-raise is 125t?