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Old 12-21-2005, 06:59 PM
tewall tewall is offline
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Default 6 Max SNG\'s

I looked for posts on this but couldn't find anything. Does anyone play these? Has there been discussions on the pros and cons of 6 max vs. full table?

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Old 12-21-2005, 07:11 PM
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I play 6 max regularly, but I play them at pacific poker where they pay out top 3 instead of top 2. This greatly reduces variance.
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Old 12-21-2005, 08:20 PM
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Default Re: 6 Max SNG\'s

IT also greatly reduces profit for a good player. Though you can probably still make more per hour on either of them cause they take less time to play... but if your 8 tabling full sng's.. Can you 8 table a shorthanded Sng. Its pretty hard even doing 3-4 of em and I used to do 8 tables of ful table.
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Old 12-22-2005, 03:43 PM
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Default Re: 6 Max SNG\'s

I was wondering if there was a place that did this. I'll have to take a look. Thx.
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Old 12-22-2005, 03:53 PM
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Default Re: 6 Max SNG\'s

I switched over to 6-max $35s pretty much exclusively at stars (username the same) this year. I play about 10 a day. Yes, you cannot 8-table or 10-table them. I usually only 2-table them, 30 minutes at a time (they usually last 45-60 at most, sometimes I can win one in 30 minutes). I really like the structure, because it forces you to play a lot more poker postflop with different hand ranges. With full tables, often times the starting requirements seem very cut and dried, as does the play.

For my money, the players are just worse at the $35s than they are at the 33s full table too.

I only have a few hundred 6-handed SNGS of data, but so far I'm looking at about a 17.5% ROI and a 42%+ ITM (22% 1st, 20% 2nd). Good times. I believe that higher ROIs and ITM are acheivable at the $35s than at the $33s. Also, the rake is less in terms of the percentage, so you're getting more money in the prize pool.

Christ, if I could only get Stars to add a $70 level...I've been emailing them for months and they just keep saying "get more people to write us"
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Old 12-21-2005, 09:43 PM
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I have been specializing in Crypto's high-stakes 6-max(£130, £215, £320 buy-ins) SNGs they call Sixpaks. The main disadvantage is that they are high-maintenance -- while its relatively standard to play 6-8 table sets of full SNGs, I max out at about 3-4 of these at a time for optimal results. This cuts into hourly wage.

Another key aspect is the 75-25 payout structure. Superior heads-up game tactics are essential in this format. Most people do not focus on heads-up in SNGs, but 1st place is where the money is, and this is a very exploitable flaw if you can make proper adjustments well. They key is to make to heads-up - then you unleash all of the reads you accumulated. It is not as random as most people make it out to be - it can be random if you face a good HU player, but most SNGers suck at HU.

If the heads-up starts early (sometimes 1 guy will take the other 4 out at/before Level 4), you have a chance to probe your opponent for weakness, lie low until blinds get big, and then drop the hammer.
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Old 12-22-2005, 02:32 AM
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Default Re: 6 Max SNG\'s

I found the payout structure frustrating.

And actually looser play is rewarded so the fish play better by accident.

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Old 12-22-2005, 04:20 AM
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Default Re: 6 Max SNG\'s

I don't like them. Six handed play forces you to widen your range and play poker against players who potentially don't know how to play poker. And, there is less dead money.
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Old 12-22-2005, 04:46 AM
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Think about all the dead money in the 10 handed SNGs...
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Old 12-22-2005, 05:33 AM
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Think about all the dead money in the HU SNGs...

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