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J 10, flop 2 pair, last to act. raise flop or turn?
Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter
Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. UTG calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls, MP1 calls, Hero calls. Flop: (9 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, UTG calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ???</font> so what I am thinking at this point is if I call SB will bet out again everyone will call and I can raise the turn for more $$$ , if I raise here it will get checked around on the turn and I will have to bet and they will all call or fold. |
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Re: J 10, flop 2 pair, last to act. raise flop or turn?
I'd wait and raise the turn here (assuming a safe card comes).
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Re: J 10, flop 2 pair, last to act. raise flop or turn?
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I'd wait and raise the turn here (assuming a safe card comes). [/ QUOTE ] okay.. and then Turn: (8.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> now what? |
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Re: J 10, flop 2 pair, last to act. raise flop or turn?
I think your plan is OK. But you should wait for the turn to raise to see if it is a safe card. On this board at least one person has a straight draw. Not raising this flop gives up a little bit of value to wait for the turn where your edge will be bigger if a blank falls.
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Re: J 10, flop 2 pair, last to act. raise flop or turn?
Go bonkers. Someone else might make a big hand, and there's no reason not to extract maximum value.
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Re: J 10, flop 2 pair, last to act. raise flop or turn? - full hand.
Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter
Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. UTG calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls, MP1 calls, Hero calls. Flop: (9 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, UTG calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, UTG calls, MP1 calls. Turn: (8.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> SB checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB folds, UTG calls, MP1 calls. River: (11.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> UTG checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, MP1 calls. Final Pot: 14.50 BB Personally I think I did okay raising the Flop. My feeling is the 2 pair was suspect to a made straight or draw, theonly 2 cards helping me are another 10 or J, I wanted to get as much in on the Flop as possible. If a scary card hits on the turn and I get bet into I can call down, if its my J or 10 everyone will check to me and will call me down.. if they bet to me trying to bluff I can raise so.. I dont think I lost anything by raising the flop and maybe saved myself some bets if an A or 8 or somether bad card came. thoughts? |
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Re: J 10, flop 2 pair, last to act. raise flop or turn? - full hand.
I think you could get a little more out of this one by waiting to raise the turn. See my reply to your original post.
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Re: J 10, flop 2 pair, last to act. raise flop or turn? - full hand.
I agree with Bodhi RE. waiting for the turn to raise. The problem with raising the flop is there are no flush draws and the SB leads out; if that wasn't bad enough, the other two players call. It's the perfect opportunity to wait for the turn to potentially push a bigger edge.
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Re: J 10, flop 2 pair, last to act. raise flop or turn?
Terrible preflop call.
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Re: J 10, flop 2 pair, last to act. raise flop or turn?
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Terrible preflop call. [/ QUOTE ] Explain... |
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