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Old 12-02-2005, 11:42 AM
IdiotVig IdiotVig is offline
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Default 22: KJs in the BB

I hate marginal hands facing small raises when the blinds are big. What do you do here?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (6 handed) converter

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Villain (t1445)
MP (t1725)
CO (t955)
Button (t1525)
SB (t930)
Hero (t1420)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG :Villain raises to t475</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero ?.
Final Pot: t1350
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Old 12-02-2005, 11:52 AM
durron597 durron597 is offline
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Default Re: 22: KJs in the BB

Stop and go

Edit: actually it's not clear, a read on the OR would be really helpful here. The only line I don't like is call and fold every single flop that you don't pair or flop a huge draw.
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Old 12-02-2005, 11:54 AM
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Default Re: 22: KJs in the BB

This is an easy fold. You definitely shouldn't push, because you're going to get called almost every time and your hand isn't good enough. You could call and push any flop, but that's a little too fancy for my tastes, especially with a stack as healthy as yours.
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Old 12-02-2005, 11:56 AM
mosdef mosdef is offline
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Default Re: 22: KJs in the BB

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Stop and go

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As I said in my post, this will work okay but I prefer a fold. Hero still has 1400 chips. I've always thought of a stop and go as a bit of a desperation play, and we're not yet desperate here.
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Old 12-02-2005, 11:56 AM
tigerite tigerite is offline
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Default Re: 22: KJs in the BB

Depends on the villian; sometimes I fold, sometimes I stop-and-go, extremely rarely I push..

Edited to add it also depends on the table, if it was pretty tight and chances for opening were often, then a fold becomes much better, whereas if there was a lot of raising and pushing etc, meaning very few chances to have the first in vigorish and FE, then stop and go again becomes the option for me.
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Old 12-02-2005, 02:31 PM
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Default Re: 22: KJs in the BB

This is an UTG raise 6-handed and villain is far from desperate. Fold.
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Old 12-02-2005, 02:41 PM
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Default Re: 22: KJs in the BB

Neither villain nor hero are that desperate. I fold.
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Old 12-02-2005, 02:44 PM
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Default Re: 22: KJs in the BB

I vote easy fold as well, unless I have a read telling me otherwise (which would be rare).
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