"In the beginning, there was Flying Spaghetti Monster"

Hi guys - The attack of the wikipedia pastes...ahhhhh!

You are both asking a lot of questions and making a lot of points. I posted a lot in another thread on this topic and made my final post there, so I'll make a final post in this thread and perhaps in a few days open another one. Some of the questions to me here are trying to get me to defend the second best position on a topic rather than the best position (in my mind anyway). My challenge with a new thread is a topic that is specific enough so that fragmented debates do not erupt (probably they will in any case).
So let me just make one final point.....

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My beef is with the teaching of the Neo-Darwinian model of evolution as essentially factual.


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No science is taught as an essential fact.

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Ooops - time out. I need to bring up something you said earlier......

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Evolution is a fact.....

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back to your most recent post..

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A scientific theory must have a dynamic nature and i doubt any scientists feel they have ever theorized any essential facts.

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If you believe evolution is a fact then .....??

By the way I think its possible to reconstruct what you are getting at with all of your statements here into a position that I would agree with. However that position would not include the insistance that any notion of design in nature has the same level of absurdity as a spaghetti monster. I think if I had encountered a forum full of religious creationists I'd be helping you reconstruct that argument.

I'll leave you guys with the last word on this thread.

Good luck at the poker tables.......