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Old 04-11-2005, 08:16 PM
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Hypothetical hand. Lets make it 6-7 handed (at a full table) at a low limit table. Action as follows.
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Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP calls, CO checks, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, MP calls, CO folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (11 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, BB calls, UTG folds, MP folds.

Turn: (7 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB calls, Hero...
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Old 04-11-2005, 08:19 PM
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Default Re: hypothetical hand seeking conjectual answers

...folds preflop [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

I'd either raise and fold to a 3-bet, or just call down. If you think your opponent can fold KK or QQ, then raise. If not, just call and pray.
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Old 04-11-2005, 08:24 PM
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[img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

yeah, just selecting a more marginal hand that hits something on the flop. (so preflop ignore...just used as an example) So on the turn u are possibly ahead[/i] or very likely drawing dead.
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Old 04-11-2005, 08:24 PM
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Default Re: hypothetical hand seeking conjectual answers

eek. tough one. fold though.
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Old 04-11-2005, 08:44 PM
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Default Re: hypothetical hand seeking conjectual answers

This is probably what I would do...but my first reaction was to raise and fold to a three bet.

But it makes since to fold as u are either dead or slightly ahead (if you are not outkicked)
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Old 04-11-2005, 08:45 PM
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Default Re: hypothetical hand seeking conjectual answers

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eek. tough one. fold though.

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What do you put SB on?
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Old 04-11-2005, 09:01 PM
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Default Re: hypothetical hand seeking conjectual answers

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What do you put SB on?

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an Ace, or maybe KK-TT, or maybe k [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

my instinct as well was raise this one and fold to a three bet, or at least call down. but with BB in there as well and the chance that you might be dominated I'm leaning towards a fold, but would like to hear what others have to say.

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Old 04-11-2005, 09:03 PM
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Default Re: hypothetical hand seeking conjectual answers

Folds. I don't even think it's very close. Maybe if BB folded, you might take a shot.

I think most anything a typical SS player raises from the SB beats you with the exception of maybe TT. If you had a read to the contrary, maybe that'd be different. But I see you ahead of TT and behind everything else. And BB calling decreases your winning chances even more, imo. With that board he's not on a draw.

btw, what's wrong with preflop?
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Old 04-11-2005, 09:40 PM
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Default Re: hypothetical hand seeking conjectual answers

Fold w/out any reads...
I think a lot of LPs like to call with top pair and a low kicker on the flop and go nuts/call down when they hit trips. SB could have you dominated.
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Old 04-11-2005, 11:16 PM
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Preflop, my bad since this is basically put together by moi, I meant to put it more in MP1, forgot to change it, but in real life on the button I call. (I basically converted another hand changed some things around on the fly to fit my situation.)

OJo is not one of my favorite hands though. (does anybody open raise with this hand besides to steal blinds?)

So yeah, preflop I fold this MP1, but I limp in CO and on the button.
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