55s: I do not know if I am running horribly or playing like a donk...

Karak567 · #1 10-24-2005, 04:15 PM

So here are some of my more recent bust out hands, let me know what you think.

25 buy-in drop right now. I know SNGPT will tell me ICM wise whether it is right, but I find at the 55s often times personal views on pushes is also important. If you want to help me out, just reply and let me know. Thanks.

***** Hand History for Game 2925105942 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:16843560 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Monday, October 24, 15:58:29 EDT 2005
Table Table 67558 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 3: hero ( $1620 )
Seat 6: LuckyCony505 ( $1155 )
Seat 5: DLPosner ( $1165 )
Seat 4: VALYE ( $2340 )
Seat 9: shawnjawn ( $1705 )
Seat 2: Wutsup2 ( $440 )
Seat 8: AtlBrvs4Life ( $1575 )
Trny:16843560 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ Td Qc ]
VALYE folds.
DLPosner folds.
LuckyCony505 folds.
AtlBrvs4Life folds.
shawnjawn raises [300].
Wutsup2 folds.
hero calls [150].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qh, 8d, 5h ]
hero checks.
shawnjawn bets [150].
>You have options at Table 66930 Table!.
hero is all-In [1320]

#Game No : 2925091206
***** Hand History for Game 2925091206 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:16843497 Level:6 Blinds(100/200) - Monday, October 24, 15:54:51 EDT 2005
Table Table 67518 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 1: Gumshoe1983 ( $1100 )
Seat 2: AtlBrvs4Life ( $950 )
Seat 5: dux310 ( $1925 )
Seat 7: basit_check ( $1685 )
Seat 8: nickianthony ( $2235 )
Seat 9: hero ( $865 )
Seat 10: xgigi ( $1240 )
Trny:16843497 Level:6
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ 5d Ks ]
>You have options at Table 67741 Table!.
AtlBrvs4Life folds.
dux310 folds.
basit_check folds.
nickianthony folds.
>You have options at Table 66930 Table!.
>You have options at Table 67520 Table!.
hero is all-In [865]

#Game No : 2925134685
***** Hand History for Game 2925134685 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:16843523 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Monday, October 24, 16:05:30 EDT 2005
Table Table 67520 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: davidkimdh ( $686 )
Seat 2: AtlBrvs4Life ( $785 )
Seat 3: hero ( $1782 )
Seat 5: crizz111 ( $2860 )
Seat 8: mmorton19 ( $3887 )
Trny:16843523 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ Qs Kd ]
mmorton19 folds.
davidkimdh folds.
AtlBrvs4Life is all-In [785]
hero is all-In [1632]

#Game No : 2925136332
***** Hand History for Game 2925136332 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:16843523 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Monday, October 24, 16:05:54 EDT 2005
Table Table 67520 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: davidkimdh ( $686 )
Seat 2: AtlBrvs4Life ( $1870 )
Seat 3: hero ( $997 )
Seat 5: crizz111 ( $2560 )
Seat 8: mmorton19 ( $3887 )
Trny:16843523 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ 4d 8h ]
davidkimdh folds.
AtlBrvs4Life folds.
hero is all-In [997]

#Game No : 2925065472
***** Hand History for Game 2925065472 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:16843521 Level:3 Blinds(25/50) - Monday, October 24, 15:48:12 EDT 2005
Table Table 67557 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: cbkaiyu ( $755 )
Seat 2: hero ( $900 )
Seat 3: AtlBrvs4Life ( $980 )
Seat 4: postmark1969 ( $570 )
Seat 5: TexasJurdy ( $740 )
Seat 6: BuillGates ( $810 )
Seat 7: uwwboy ( $1035 )
Seat 8: shawnie26 ( $2355 )
Seat 9: biro1830 ( $835 )
Seat 10: Be__Bee ( $1020 )
Trny:16843521 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ 8d 8c ]
TexasJurdy: nice hand
Be__Bee folds.
shawnie26: ty
cbkaiyu calls [50].
>You have options at Table 67811 Table!.
shawnie26: bbs
hero raises [200].
AtlBrvs4Life folds.
postmark1969 folds.
TexasJurdy folds.
BuillGates folds.
TexasJurdy: huh
uwwboy raises [425].
shawnie26 folds.
biro1830 folds.
cbkaiyu folds.
hero is all-In [700]

#Game No : 2925124399
***** Hand History for Game 2925124399 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:16843597 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Monday, October 24, 16:02:59 EDT 2005
Table Table 67682 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 8: hero ( $590 )
Seat 3: AtlBrvs4Life ( $965 )
Seat 2: Red_Orchid ( $3365 )
Seat 4: Limeguy007 ( $400 )
Seat 6: Spewgene ( $1985 )
Seat 1: Drethen ( $965 )
Seat 5: TomA318 ( $1730 )
Trny:16843597 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ 5h 6h ]
Limeguy007 folds.
TomA318 folds.
Spewgene folds.
hero is all-In [590]

#Game No : 2925116652
***** Hand History for Game 2925116652 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:16843590 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Monday, October 24, 16:01:06 EDT 2005
Table Table 67741 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 4: Vinny_Chenz ( $1265 )
Seat 3: hero ( $725 )
Seat 2: Gitrdun1time ( $995 )
Seat 7: Red_Orchid ( $2140 )
Seat 10: longballjy ( $3065 )
Seat 5: CRASHFLAME ( $1810 )
Trny:16843590 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ 2h Jd ]
Red_Orchid folds.
longballjy folds.
Gitrdun1time folds.
hero is all-In [725]

Bigwig · #2 10-24-2005, 04:29 PM

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***** Hand History for Game 2925105942 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:16843560 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Monday, October 24, 15:58:29 EDT 2005
Table Table 67558 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 3: hero ( $1620 )
Seat 6: LuckyCony505 ( $1155 )
Seat 5: DLPosner ( $1165 )
Seat 4: VALYE ( $2340 )
Seat 9: shawnjawn ( $1705 )
Seat 2: Wutsup2 ( $440 )
Seat 8: AtlBrvs4Life ( $1575 )
Trny:16843560 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ Td Qc ]
VALYE folds.
DLPosner folds.
LuckyCony505 folds.
AtlBrvs4Life folds.
shawnjawn raises [300].
Wutsup2 folds.
hero calls [150].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qh, 8d, 5h ]
hero checks.
shawnjawn bets [150].
>You have options at Table 66930 Table!.
hero is all-In [1320]

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The subject of your other thread. As I said there, with a stack like this, I fold.

[ QUOTE ]
#Game No : 2925091206
***** Hand History for Game 2925091206 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:16843497 Level:6 Blinds(100/200) - Monday, October 24, 15:54:51 EDT 2005
Table Table 67518 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 1: Gumshoe1983 ( $1100 )
Seat 2: AtlBrvs4Life ( $950 )
Seat 5: dux310 ( $1925 )
Seat 7: basit_check ( $1685 )
Seat 8: nickianthony ( $2235 )
Seat 9: hero ( $865 )
Seat 10: xgigi ( $1240 )
Trny:16843497 Level:6
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ 5d Ks ]
>You have options at Table 67741 Table!.
AtlBrvs4Life folds.
dux310 folds.
basit_check folds.
nickianthony folds.
>You have options at Table 66930 Table!.
>You have options at Table 67520 Table!.
hero is all-In [865]

[/ QUOTE ]

I would move all-in here if the blinds were due to go up before I reached the button again. This one is borderline, but most likely, moving in is the right play.

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#Game No : 2925134685
***** Hand History for Game 2925134685 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:16843523 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Monday, October 24, 16:05:30 EDT 2005
Table Table 67520 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: davidkimdh ( $686 )
Seat 2: AtlBrvs4Life ( $785 )
Seat 3: hero ( $1782 )
Seat 5: crizz111 ( $2860 )
Seat 8: mmorton19 ( $3887 )
Trny:16843523 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ Qs Kd ]
mmorton19 folds.
davidkimdh folds.
AtlBrvs4Life is all-In [785]
hero is all-In [1632]

[/ QUOTE ]

I think this is fine.

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#Game No : 2925136332
***** Hand History for Game 2925136332 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:16843523 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Monday, October 24, 16:05:54 EDT 2005
Table Table 67520 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: davidkimdh ( $686 )
Seat 2: AtlBrvs4Life ( $1870 )
Seat 3: hero ( $997 )
Seat 5: crizz111 ( $2560 )
Seat 8: mmorton19 ( $3887 )
Trny:16843523 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ 4d 8h ]
davidkimdh folds.
AtlBrvs4Life folds.
hero is all-In [997]

[/ QUOTE ]

This one I don't like. I'd fold. It's just too awful a hand, you've got two left to act, and a very small amount of fold equity.

[ QUOTE ]
#Game No : 2925065472
***** Hand History for Game 2925065472 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:16843521 Level:3 Blinds(25/50) - Monday, October 24, 15:48:12 EDT 2005
Table Table 67557 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: cbkaiyu ( $755 )
Seat 2: hero ( $900 )
Seat 3: AtlBrvs4Life ( $980 )
Seat 4: postmark1969 ( $570 )
Seat 5: TexasJurdy ( $740 )
Seat 6: BuillGates ( $810 )
Seat 7: uwwboy ( $1035 )
Seat 8: shawnie26 ( $2355 )
Seat 9: biro1830 ( $835 )
Seat 10: Be__Bee ( $1020 )
Trny:16843521 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ 8d 8c ]
TexasJurdy: nice hand
Be__Bee folds.
shawnie26: ty
cbkaiyu calls [50].
>You have options at Table 67811 Table!.
shawnie26: bbs
hero raises [200].
AtlBrvs4Life folds.
postmark1969 folds.
TexasJurdy folds.
BuillGates folds.
TexasJurdy: huh
uwwboy raises [425].
shawnie26 folds.
biro1830 folds.
cbkaiyu folds.
hero is all-In [700]

[/ QUOTE ]

WTF are you doing here? This is very donk. Limp with 88 in this spot. Folding is better than raising.

[ QUOTE ]
#Game No : 2925124399
***** Hand History for Game 2925124399 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:16843597 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Monday, October 24, 16:02:59 EDT 2005
Table Table 67682 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 8: hero ( $590 )
Seat 3: AtlBrvs4Life ( $965 )
Seat 2: Red_Orchid ( $3365 )
Seat 4: Limeguy007 ( $400 )
Seat 6: Spewgene ( $1985 )
Seat 1: Drethen ( $965 )
Seat 5: TomA318 ( $1730 )
Trny:16843597 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ 5h 6h ]
Limeguy007 folds.
TomA318 folds.
Spewgene folds.
hero is all-In [590]

[/ QUOTE ]

Again, I don't like it. Not with your stack. You want better cards.

[ QUOTE ]
#Game No : 2925116652
***** Hand History for Game 2925116652 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:16843590 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Monday, October 24, 16:01:06 EDT 2005
Table Table 67741 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 4: Vinny_Chenz ( $1265 )
Seat 3: hero ( $725 )
Seat 2: Gitrdun1time ( $995 )
Seat 7: Red_Orchid ( $2140 )
Seat 10: longballjy ( $3065 )
Seat 5: CRASHFLAME ( $1810 )
Trny:16843590 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ 2h Jd ]
Red_Orchid folds.
longballjy folds.
Gitrdun1time folds.
hero is all-In [725]

[/ QUOTE ]

Eh, don't like this one either.

axeshigh · #3 10-24-2005, 04:30 PM

QT: I fold this every time preflop unless the minraiser has really been abusing the move lately (and then I would push instead of call).
K5: easy push.
KQ: I'd probably let this go because you're in real trouble if you lose the hand and KQ sucks and there are 2 short stacks.
48: you have minimal FE so I'd wait for a better hand, then push any 2 utg if all else fails.
88: I'd limp behind and fold to a raise, definitely fold to a small reraise like that.
56: No idea why you're pushing 56 in MP.
2J: I'd push junk like that from SB but not from button.

zambonidrivr · #4 10-24-2005, 04:30 PM

I am not going to comment on indivudal hands becasue there are 4q30574082564 of them, but in general I have 2 observations.

1. You are calling raises and pushes with marginal holdings... i would rather push any 2 against a stack than make the calls your making.
2. It appears you are waiting too long to shove.... with not much FE left. I would begin to make moves earlier in the tourney.

pooh74 · #5 10-24-2005, 04:32 PM

[ QUOTE ]
So here are some of my more recent bust out hands, let me know what you think.

25 buy-in drop right now. I know SNGPT will tell me ICM wise whether it is right, but I find at the 55s often times personal views on pushes is also important. If you want to help me out, just reply and let me know. Thanks.

***** Hand History for Game 2925105942 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:16843560 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Monday, October 24, 15:58:29 EDT 2005
Table Table 67558 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 3: hero ( $1620 )
Seat 6: LuckyCony505 ( $1155 )
Seat 5: DLPosner ( $1165 )
Seat 4: VALYE ( $2340 )
Seat 9: shawnjawn ( $1705 )
Seat 2: Wutsup2 ( $440 )
Seat 8: AtlBrvs4Life ( $1575 )
Trny:16843560 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ Td Qc ]
VALYE folds.
DLPosner folds.
LuckyCony505 folds.
AtlBrvs4Life folds.
shawnjawn raises [300].
Wutsup2 folds.
hero calls [150].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qh, 8d, 5h ]
hero checks.
shawnjawn bets [150].
>You have options at Table 66930 Table!.
hero is all-In [1320]

#Game No : 2925091206
***** Hand History for Game 2925091206 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:16843497 Level:6 Blinds(100/200) - Monday, October 24, 15:54:51 EDT 2005
Table Table 67518 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 1: Gumshoe1983 ( $1100 )
Seat 2: AtlBrvs4Life ( $950 )
Seat 5: dux310 ( $1925 )
Seat 7: basit_check ( $1685 )
Seat 8: nickianthony ( $2235 )
Seat 9: hero ( $865 )
Seat 10: xgigi ( $1240 )
Trny:16843497 Level:6
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ 5d Ks ]
>You have options at Table 67741 Table!.
AtlBrvs4Life folds.
dux310 folds.
basit_check folds.
nickianthony folds.
>You have options at Table 66930 Table!.
>You have options at Table 67520 Table!.
hero is all-In [865]

#Game No : 2925134685
***** Hand History for Game 2925134685 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:16843523 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Monday, October 24, 16:05:30 EDT 2005
Table Table 67520 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: davidkimdh ( $686 )
Seat 2: AtlBrvs4Life ( $785 )
Seat 3: hero ( $1782 )
Seat 5: crizz111 ( $2860 )
Seat 8: mmorton19 ( $3887 )
Trny:16843523 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ Qs Kd ]
mmorton19 folds.
davidkimdh folds.
AtlBrvs4Life is all-In [785]
hero is all-In [1632]

#Game No : 2925136332
***** Hand History for Game 2925136332 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:16843523 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Monday, October 24, 16:05:54 EDT 2005
Table Table 67520 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: davidkimdh ( $686 )
Seat 2: AtlBrvs4Life ( $1870 )
Seat 3: hero ( $997 )
Seat 5: crizz111 ( $2560 )
Seat 8: mmorton19 ( $3887 )
Trny:16843523 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ 4d 8h ]
davidkimdh folds.
AtlBrvs4Life folds.
hero is all-In [997]

#Game No : 2925065472
***** Hand History for Game 2925065472 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:16843521 Level:3 Blinds(25/50) - Monday, October 24, 15:48:12 EDT 2005
Table Table 67557 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: cbkaiyu ( $755 )
Seat 2: hero ( $900 )
Seat 3: AtlBrvs4Life ( $980 )
Seat 4: postmark1969 ( $570 )
Seat 5: TexasJurdy ( $740 )
Seat 6: BuillGates ( $810 )
Seat 7: uwwboy ( $1035 )
Seat 8: shawnie26 ( $2355 )
Seat 9: biro1830 ( $835 )
Seat 10: Be__Bee ( $1020 )
Trny:16843521 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ 8d 8c ]
TexasJurdy: nice hand
Be__Bee folds.
shawnie26: ty
cbkaiyu calls [50].
>You have options at Table 67811 Table!.
shawnie26: bbs
hero raises [200].
AtlBrvs4Life folds.
postmark1969 folds.
TexasJurdy folds.
BuillGates folds.
TexasJurdy: huh
uwwboy raises [425].
shawnie26 folds.
biro1830 folds.
cbkaiyu folds.
hero is all-In [700]

#Game No : 2925124399
***** Hand History for Game 2925124399 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:16843597 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Monday, October 24, 16:02:59 EDT 2005
Table Table 67682 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 8: hero ( $590 )
Seat 3: AtlBrvs4Life ( $965 )
Seat 2: Red_Orchid ( $3365 )
Seat 4: Limeguy007 ( $400 )
Seat 6: Spewgene ( $1985 )
Seat 1: Drethen ( $965 )
Seat 5: TomA318 ( $1730 )
Trny:16843597 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ 5h 6h ]
Limeguy007 folds.
TomA318 folds.
Spewgene folds.
hero is all-In [590]

#Game No : 2925116652
***** Hand History for Game 2925116652 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:16843590 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Monday, October 24, 16:01:06 EDT 2005
Table Table 67741 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 4: Vinny_Chenz ( $1265 )
Seat 3: hero ( $725 )
Seat 2: Gitrdun1time ( $995 )
Seat 7: Red_Orchid ( $2140 )
Seat 10: longballjy ( $3065 )
Seat 5: CRASHFLAME ( $1810 )
Trny:16843590 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ 2h Jd ]
Red_Orchid folds.
longballjy folds.
Gitrdun1time folds.
hero is all-In [725]

[/ QUOTE ]

HandS:

1. I would this fold PF, or push. I dont like the ambiguity. But I have called here before and if I did I would play it the same. Flop looks good.

2. Fine

3. If you were BB then this would be a good call, but I dont much care for this...you have a good stack, better to steal, youre behind A2.

4. fine, ne2

5. fold to the minreraise PF.

6. fine

7. close...I might wait for a better hand, but a push here is fine i think.

Karak567 · #6 10-24-2005, 04:35 PM

To defend my 56 hand, that is one I felt the most confident with. 56s is usually a 40 % dog if it gets called and I had very few chips left with blinds and my FE was about to go to crap. Unless I messed something up sNGPT says 1.5 % push, hmm.

The 88 and QT hands were moronic, I'll give you that. I chalk them up to bad run tilt. Maybe it's time to take a day off.

axeshigh · #7 10-24-2005, 04:48 PM

56 is 39% vs a random hand. If I remove hands with cards below 7 in them, leaving aces, 66 and 55 (just to remove hands that would never ever call), 56 is a 35% dog.

tigerite · #8 10-24-2005, 04:48 PM

How can SNGPT say 1.5% push, obviously you've put them on too tight a range for calling. Here's a clue they won't call with 66+,AT+ or whatever the default setting is, I can guarantee!

durron597 · #9 10-24-2005, 04:55 PM

88 bad, 84 bad, J2 bad, rest fine.

I think the problem when you push with crap is that you aren't looking at the stack size of the BB. He knows you are desperate and are pushing with a wide range and he has the chips with which to look you up.

88 I don't have to explain as someone else already did.

tigerite · #10 10-24-2005, 04:56 PM

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88 bad, 84 bad, J2 bad, rest fine.

I think the problem when you push with crap is that you aren't looking at the stack size of the BB. He knows you are desperate and are pushing with a wide range and he has the chips with which to look you up.

88 I don't have to explain as someone else already did.

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This is so very true. It's why I love to pick up any kind of hand here, because the stuff they call with defies belief. Yeah, sometimes you lose as a 60/40 favourite but most times you don't and double up, and are right back in it.

My personal favourite so far was someone calling with 7 2 sooted. I mean, wtf? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]