Let Me Paraphrase President Bush's speech tonight:

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So I guess we needed to invade because, while we weren't in immediate danger, we were in immediate danger of being in immediate danger, or perhaps in immediate danger of being in immediate danger of being in immediate danger. How close do you need to get to "immediate danger" to invade? Given the containment and weapon inspections at the time, I don't think we were remotely close enough to justify the cost that has been, and will be, paid.

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This just goes back again to what myself and other posters have said. Namely that threats are best dealt with when small and the price to eliminate them is less than when those threats have been left to fester (appeased) and the price becomes even greater to deal with them.

Like I said, democrats/libs are short term thinkers and fair weather soldiers.

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Care to back up your statement?

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I'll do it for him.

Speech from Oct. 7, 2002:
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Some ask how urgent this danger is to America and the world. The danger is already significant, and it only grows worse with time.

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And that is the source of our urgent concern about Saddam Hussein's links to international terrorist groups

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Yet here he seems to indicate the threat is not imminent:
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Facing clear evidence of peril, we cannot wait for the final proof -- the smoking gun -- that could come in the form of a mushroom cloud.

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However, I prefer his quote from September 12, 2002:
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We know that Saddam Hussein pursued weapons of mass murder even when inspectors were in his country. Are we to assume that he stopped when they left? The history, the logic, and the facts lead to one conclusion: Saddam Hussein's regime is a grave and gathering danger. To suggest otherwise is to hope against the evidence. To assume this regime's good faith is to bet the lives of millions and the peace of the world in a reckless gamble. And this is a risk we must not take.

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from Oct. 7, 2002:

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Some ask how urgent this danger is to America and the world. The danger is already significant, and it only grows worse with time.


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And that is the source of our urgent concern about Saddam Hussein's links to international terrorist groups



Yet here he seems to indicate the threat is not imminent:

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Facing clear evidence of peril, we cannot wait for the final proof -- the smoking gun -- that could come in the form of a mushroom cloud.


However, I prefer his quote from September 12, 2002:

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We know that Saddam Hussein pursued weapons of mass murder even when inspectors were in his country. Are we to assume that he stopped when they left? The history, the logic, and the facts lead to one conclusion: Saddam Hussein's regime is a grave and gathering danger. To suggest otherwise is to hope against the evidence. To assume this regime's good faith is to bet the lives of millions and the peace of the world in a reckless gamble. And this is a risk we must not take.


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My take on that, Russian Bear, is just this: had Saddam's regime actually been where it was believed to have been as regards WMD and/or WMD development, then all of those statements would have been appropriate. And since it was widely so believed, those statements were indeed appropriate, even if found somewhat erroneous in hindsight.

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Nice try, but none of those suggest an "immediate and imminent" threat that the guy I responded to suggested Bush/admin claimed. Even the grave/significant threat can't be argued against easily as he still had sanctions, the no-fly zone, and weapons inspections coming. Obviously he was some sort of threat, otherwise all of that was pointless.

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First 7 minutes:

"Terrorism + 9/11 + Iraq + Terrorism + 9/11 + Iraq +Terrorism + 9/11 + Iraq +Terrorism + 9/11 + Iraq +Terrorism + 9/11 + Iraq +Terrorism + 9/11 + Iraq +Terrorism + 9/11 + Iraq +Terrorism + 9/11 + Iraq +Terrorism + 9/11 + Iraq +Terrorism + 9/11 + Iraq +Terrorism + 9/11 + Iraq +Terrorism + 9/11 + Iraq +Terrorism + 9/11 + Iraq +Terrorism + 9/11 + Iraq +Terrorism + 9/11 + Iraq +Terrorism + 9/11 + Iraq +Terrorism + 9/11 + Iraq +Terrorism + 9/11 + Iraq +Terrorism + 9/11 + Iraq +Terrorism + 9/11 + Iraq +Terrorism + 9/11 + Iraq +Terrorism + 9/11 + Iraq +Terrorism + 9/11 + Iraq +Terrorism + 9/11 + Iraq +Terrorism + 9/11 + Iraq +Terrorism + 9/11 + Iraq."

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Next 7 minutes:

"Partsian disagreement = defeatism"

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Sendoff to the conservative Christians:

"God is not dead...Merry Christmas"

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I'd also add:

- Everything we based this war on was wrong. But I, King Georgie, don't care.

- The American people don't really support this war anymore. But, even though I'm elected to represent you, I don't care.

- I have no realistic and clear plan for Iraq. But it doesn't matter, I have enough brain-dead sheep following me that I won't have any problems pushing whatever agenda I want.

- Stutter, stutter. <font color="red">ZOMG THE ENEMY!!! </font> /smirk